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[RedWarrior0]

My "nonnuclear death rain" idea was just originally for terminating the six and half bazillion artillery pieces the N Koreans have trained on Seoul before they could fire. Then, Scorched Earth. No food, no war. An invasion of S Korea would be devastating due to the fact that we've been fortifying the DMZ, too. We could call on everyone in the UN with Security Council Resolution 82. Pretty much everyone is technically at war with North Korea right now. Napalm en masse and three quarters of the world's supply of high explosive fired via Tomahawk or agreed-upon ICBM, boom. -1 North Korea.

[Neonivek]

To be honest, we should really have liberated North Korea years ago.

The poor fucking people living there. =(

Yes! We shall be hailed as liberators!

why does this sound familiar?

oh...

We are here to help you!   ....
*Turns to aide*
Why is there no cheering?  Why are they looking at us like that?

In today's news the citizens of North Korea suddenly broke out dancing in the streets tearing down all their statues of their previous leader proclaiming America the greatest thing since sliced bread!

-Interestingly enough... the USA is quite infamos for staging this sort of thing.

[Leafsnail]

My "nonnuclear death rain" idea was just originally for terminating the six and half bazillion artillery pieces the N Koreans have trained on Seoul before they could fire. Then, Scorched Earth. No food, no war. An invasion of S Korea would be devastating due to the fact that we've been fortifying the DMZ, too. We could call on everyone in the UN with Security Council Resolution 82. Pretty much everyone is technically at war with North Korea right now. Napalm en masse and three quarters of the world's supply of high explosive fired via Tomahawk or agreed-upon ICBM, boom. -1 North Korea.

Before I reply, I have to ask: are you being serious?

[Lord Shonus]

The absolute closest is the Chinese Civil War or Japan's war against China in the late 30's. The Koreas have always been a unique situation, and this would be no exception. I'm mostly tired of the public perception that "wars will now be over in a few weeks, then you'll be fighting resistance for thirty years." A second war on the Korean peninsula will be neither short (unless NK won) nor easy, but a protracted resistance is unlikely.
    The NK military would probably be enough to overwhelm US and ROK forces in theatre, especially in a surprise attack. If they were able to complete conquest in less than the time it took for significant UN reinforcements (at least three weeks, likely more) then they would win. Otherwise, they would lose. In either case, it would be a full-scale conventional war. The nuclear threat would be meaningless, as the US would not launch first in a conflict that did not threaten US soil, while NK would not court retaliatory annihilation except as a desperate measure.

[Zangi]

My "nonnuclear death rain" idea was just originally for terminating the six and half bazillion artillery pieces the N Koreans have trained on Seoul before they could fire. Then, Scorched Earth. No food, no war. An invasion of S Korea would be devastating due to the fact that we've been fortifying the DMZ, too. We could call on everyone in the UN with Security Council Resolution 82. Pretty much everyone is technically at war with North Korea right now. Napalm en masse and three quarters of the world's supply of high explosive fired via Tomahawk or agreed-upon ICBM, boom. -1 North Korea.

Before I reply, I have to ask: are you being serious?

It'll work out... I'm sure of it.  Everything is going to be allllll right!
My plan cannot fail.

[Leafsnail]

So... two wars, 70 and 80 years ago?  I'm not entirely sure how they're relevant or supporting of your argum,ent.

a protracted resistance is unlikely.

Citation needed?

[RedWarrior0]

Partially serious. The artillery trained on Seoul needs to be taken out if we attack. UNSC Resolution 82 is in effect. Both sides have been fortifying the DMZ for fifty years. We might have enough explosive, napalm, and EMP tech to do it. It isn't a good idea unless we have 140ish countries including the entire developed world supporting us. An invasion would be three kinds of suicide and likely another Afghanistan.

[Sowelu]

Partially serious. The artillery trained on Seoul needs to be taken out if we attack. UNSC Resolution 82 is in effect. Both sides have been fortifying the DMZ for fifty years. We might have enough explosive, napalm, and EMP tech to do it. It isn't a good idea unless we have 140ish countries including the entire developed world supporting us. An invasion would be three kinds of suicide and likely another Afghanistan.

If any major militarized country would be hardened against EMP attack, it would be NK.

And by "hardened against" I mean "not using modern enough electronics to care".

[Heron TSG]

I love how none of those "battleships" are actual battleships.

How many proper battleships does the US Navy have anymore?  I can't remember ever hearing about Navy ships actually shelling something in the modern day.

I do believe that we have the Missouri and the Arizona sitting in Pearl Harbor still, at varying altitudes. Otherwise, they've been entirely replaced by our ridiculous number of carriers and the destroyers and other various escort ships that go with them.

[Leafsnail]

Partially serious. The artillery trained on Seoul needs to be taken out if we attack. UNSC Resolution 82 is in effect. Both sides have been fortifying the DMZ for fifty years. We might have enough explosive, napalm, and EMP tech to do it. It isn't a good idea unless we have 140ish countries including the entire developed world supporting us. An invasion would be three kinds of suicide and likely another Afghanistan.

Well, the question you'd need to answer before anyone supports you: "Why?"

[Zrk2]

I love how none of those "battleships" are actual battleships.

How many proper battleships does the US Navy have anymore?  I can't remember ever hearing about Navy ships actually shelling something in the modern day.

I do believe that we have the Missouri and the Arizona sitting in Pearl Harbor still, at varying altitudes. Otherwise, they've been entirely replaced by our ridiculous number of carriers and the destroyers and other various escort ships that go with them.

The last I heard battleships were actually used to fire the opening salvo of the Gulf War.

To avoid the DMZ there is a little thing called amphibious landings/paratroopers/ICBM/B-52/Technology advanced past the 50s'

NK would get crushed so quick. With the exception of China and possibly Russia USA could crush any other single nation in any type of war.

[Sowelu]

Oh, nobody's ever argued that we couldn't successfully invade NK.

All other geopolitical issues aside, the problem is that they can annihilate Seoul--a city with a population of 20 million--at a moment's notice.  And that's using artillery, not planes or anything, so air superiority isn't going to help.  It would be incredibly bloody.

[RedWarrior0]

So, to eliminate the Seoul threat, we would need a massive refugee flood to southern South Korea.

Any attack NK using infantry, vehicles, and bombers will have casualties for the attacker. Thus the Rain of Death, constant LOUD noise for three or four days with the explosions aimed at soldiers, then once we cut all shots off, they can sleep. And let Precious Leader and Precious Leader-to-be killed by an elite SEAL/Israeli Counterterror precision strike team. Because if they have a hard time staying awake after that, we might as well give up.

[ChairmanPoo]

Oh, nobody's ever argued that we couldn't successfully invade NK.

That depends on your definition of "success".

[Realmfighter]

Depends of your definition of "Invade"