Let's go. What else you got. I'm ready and raring to get into a good fight. I'm like the Muhammed Ali of Mafia. I'll dodge to the left, dodge to the right, then hit you with a quick jab of scumhunting in the jaw and knock you flat. You ready to go nine rounds with the Heavyweight Champion?
Very well, let's hear your counter-attack.
You got it, pal. I got more than enough patience and anger and determination to deal with blind unthinking idiots. I got so much practice last game, it'll be a piece of cake dealing with you.
1) I did what now? I explained all the buddying stuff already when it was brought up, early in Day 1,
Explained or not, you were buddying Lemon, and were nice to me about perceived mistakes I made in my methodology, rather then inquisitional.
I vehemently disagree with this. Guiding people for the sake of their own game is not buddying, and it's something I can't help myself from doing, and I'm not going to stop because you don't like it for whatever the fuck reason. Seriously, I can't correct you, because I have to be scumhunting you at the same time?
That is.
The most retarded thing I've ever heard.
3) Act? Pssssssh. There's no way I can respond to this.
I stand by my statement: You're the only one who I get strong "good townie" vibes from. Weak evidence, perhaps, but my experience leads me to believe that "good townies" don't usually feel as such. Scum get far more benefit from being obvious "good townie," as townies tend to get NKed when they're accepted as obviously townies.
Vibes. Feelings. These are things I cannot defend against.
You got any examples where I'm trying to be a "good townie"? Any posts that make you think that way? If you don't then you're full of crap.
I can always point to a post that gives me a feeling, and I can explain why. Can you do the same? If you can't then this is a completely indefensible reason to suspect somebody.
4) There's no good way for me to address it, and I addressed it as best as I could. The reason, of course, why there's no good way to address it is because those are legitimate issues with the plan. But I wasn't lying about the main goal. You're superimposing motivations on me because of your suspicions. It would get everybody assisting, and then there would be some ancillary advantages as well. Maybe not much, but a little more than just making sure everybody assisted randomly.
If you suspect me because I was pushing the plan too hard, I did say I wasn't going to give it up easy, didn't I? I gave it my best, but it's clear now that it's not going to work. Might've been clear before, but I thought I might try and be persuasive.
No, sorry. I cannot mentally combine the following statements as all being true:
1) The primary goal of the plan, which could have been accomplished without any agreements, was to get everybody assisting.
2) Jim spent the better part of a day trying to get everybody to go along with it.
Since you admitted that the secondary goal had a slim chance of working, and would have required the compliance of all townies, I feel I can safely rule it out.
I see two remaining possible goals:
1) You're scum, trying to figure out the sorcerers. Distracting from scum hunting with your plan was a bonus.
2) You're actually town, but were reaction fishing. Since you haven't attacked anybody for their stances, this is unlikely.
If you can't mentally combine those two things then you're not thinking very hard. Because
those are the things that happened. Come on, Nirur Torir, keep up. Besides, your list needs editing.
1) The primary goal of the plan, which could have been accomplished without any agreements, was to get everybody assisting. The secondary goal of the plan renders it a slight improvement over just getting everybody assisting.
2) Jim spent the better part of a day trying to get everybody to go along with it, because he thought it was a good idea, even against stiff opposition from a bunch of boring people.
This is not hard to get a grasp on. Because it is what happened.
As for your scenarios, the first one is stupid because it assumes I have a complete lack of foresight and memory, because you think I would've realized I would get flak for proposing a plan, since I got flak for the same thing in the first Sorcererer's Apprentice. (Hint: I knew this full-well going into it that I would get shit for it.) I mean, distracting the town from scum hunting? Seems like
that backfired. Figuring out a grainy picture of where the town sorcerers are isn't worth
that.
The second one is incorrect, because that's not what I was proposing the plan for. But even if I did do it for reaction testing, there's not much to go on. I see a bunch of indifference about it, some opposition, some support, but that's not terribly out of line. There are some interesting windfalls in the scumhunting department because of it, and I'll get to that in a minute.
5) Yes, it was WIFOM. WIFOM does not automatically mean whoever doing it is scum. You'll see townies frequently employing WIFOM when they're under suspicion, as a supplement to their normal defense of explaining their actions.
If so, then your defensive WIFOM failed completely, as it just makes so much more sense if you're scum.
This
This is stupid. You've never seen townies use WIFOM before? You need to play this game more.
6-10) This is stupid. People who trudge this out just want an excuse to lynch people and sound authoritative about it. If I had been caught in a lie about my role, like I actioned somebody different then who I said I did, then yeah, Lynch All Liars, no problem.
Perhaps not a direct lie, but you were deceitful about it.
And then there you go with the superposition of motivations again.
I did not lie. I was not deceitful. I said everything I did because I believed it was true. I made no attempt to mislead people.
Anyways, I see three people voting for me, but only one of them is actually interested in sparring. The second I'm not sure about, but the third I'm pretty sure is scum.
Unvote.
Criptfeind, you're scum. Before you decided you wanted to suspect me for my plan, you suspected me because... I don't know, honestly. You said I was being too nice, but that's a reasonless vote if I ever heard one.
You also said you were going to try and kick the beehive. What happened to that? You didn't do it against me. You haven't done it against anyone. So I'm pretty sure you're scum who's planning on sitting tight through the rest of the day now that you have a reason that you can say you suspect somebody.
Passive and complacent. Scum.