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Total Members Voted: 11

[IronyOwl]

That's impossible to say unless we know how much food they produce. Skilled dwarves might be better at actually bringing them all back without incident, as well.

[V-Norrec]

Well, when we have so many other tasks that need doing however, it would be a waste of labor.  Let us focus for a time on getting the fields set up and the base level dug out, then we can begin trying to herd animals.

[IronyOwl]

That's the thing, though. Unless the fields are all we need, herding animals could be a more efficient (or as efficient) way to get food. I wouldn't particularly count on it, but the chickens are supposedly no-maintenance meal-producers, so it might stand to reason that needier livestock are high-maintenance supermeal-producers.

I agree we have other things to focus on, but I don't see it as being less important than the fields, seeing as it's the same goal. Unless we find out it's less efficient/useful in the short run, of course.

[Samthere]

Spoiler: Adjusted Digging Plan (click to show/hide)

The light pink indicates secondary priority to the darker pink.
The yellow indicates tertiary priority.
The green indicates future stockpile expansion.
The blue indicates future workshops relating to forging/metalwork.
If we can build ventilation a Z-level above, that'll be fine for the workshops. If it requires space on the same Z-level, we shrink the green area by one and shift the blue areas left by one, building the ventilation behind them.

[V-Norrec]

Gar, do you really need a special room already, when we don't even have cave farmland slated to be built >.>

[Lillipad]

His workshop area doesn't take up much space, and the farm area can just be put in E with the kitchen across the hall. The dining hall(for now) can be placed in D, and the first staircases up/down down can be placed in F.

[Shade-o]

So if you dig out ventilation corridors above, how do they connect to the outside?? It's a weak point, remember.

[V-Norrec]

Just put the daggon forge outside for the moment and convert the area into cave farm area.  We'll worry about ventilation later (i.e. when we build up 10 levels from where we are now. Btw I recommend we put all our living quarters up among the cliffs because A) it'd look awesome, B) we could build a nice greenhouse to grow surface plants and regular plants right next to each other.  C)  Easier to build chimneys for the forges.  D)  Sedimentary layers are usually closer to the top which grant us some iron to work with.

[FuzzyZergling]

We could convert D or E into a makeshift farm pretty easily.

As for ventilation, a series of grates coupled with the it opening into the cliff face (probably) should keep invaders out.

[Samthere]

Ventilation has to be full corridors and not just crawlspaces, then? Well, then they can either go up several Z's or connect horizontally to the outside; we're gonna want to grate any opening that we're not using as an exit.

And fine, I can forge outside, but I'm still going to dig the dark pink area of DIGGING PLAN GAR-ALPHA. I need a space in the mountain where I can set up an office and make some drawings.

[V-Norrec]

Until later, when that will be a liability.  We'll want secure chimneys made of smoothed stone 10 or 15 Z levels high on top eventually which if you fall down will lead directly to our magma forges so we'll get crispy goblin if they ever try to climb up them and drop down.

[Shade-o]

You can also use shafts for illumination. Good for permanent, fire-free lighting. Mirrors can be used for getting light around corners.

[FuzzyZergling]

Just CoughDrop, Hastur, and Lillipad who haven't given actions, I think.

[Lillipad]

I don't have any changes to my actions.

[V-Norrec]

Spoiler: Changes to the plan (click to show/hide)

Lightish Brown = cave farming area
White = Well
Black = Tunnel and Resevoir (There should be flood gates at both ends so we can stop the resevoir from freezing in winter (It should be sufficently warmer that far in the mountain, I hope)  The Tunnel should be about 1 Z level deeper than the level we are currently building in.  The Resevoir should be 2 (so it spans 2-z levels, we don't want to run out of water for farming uses well.)

I'd like to see these changes implemented, post haste!