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[smirk]

The rise of False Brophets? Pretty sure that's a sign of the Abrocalypse. I wouldn't be surprised if the founder is a secret devotee of Brophomet.

[smeeprocket]

Yea that's definitely a WTF.

I don't understand. :?.

[Sergarr]

The only parameters that usually matter for blunt weapons is density. Unless its impact yield is stupidly low, which causes it to bounce off harmlessly.

That combined with hugeness of DF weapons => weapon material barely even matters for blunt weapons.

>:-|

[pisskop]

The only parameters that usually matter for blunt weapons is density. Unless its impact yield is stupidly low, which causes it to bounce off harmlessly.

That combined with hugeness of DF weapons => weapon material barely even matters for blunt weapons.

>:-|

well no.  Density is a property of material.  Hence, material matters.  It just doesnt follow the stereotypical progression.
'
Final Fantasy and such have WTFed your brain, good sir.

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In other DF news, I have made a giant olm man.  Fun times should be had soon.

[Sergarr]

Material barely matters since the weapons are so huge that the momentum is mostly limited by creature's ability to move it, not by its density.

And the only FF games I played were 7 and 8, AFAIK there wasn't any stereotypical progression there.

[pisskop]

Give everyone a shield and warhammer, and armor.  iron is easiest to set up, but whatever.

Now, give team 1 copper or such.  Give team 2 silver or such.

Who wins?

Answer:  The ones with the better weapon material does.
Skill should mitigate that effect quite a bit, but still.

[Sergarr]

Nah, the one who chips the first bone wins. That's usually the one who first hits somebody's hand.

Pain is overpowered.

[pisskop]

Soo . . . weapon material doesnt matter because pain is a touch overpowered?  wtf indeed.

[Putnam]

Material barely matters since the weapons are so huge that the momentum is mostly limited by creature's ability to move it, not by its density.

If weapons weren't so big, battles would take forever. Remember that fights aren't 1v1 in most cases in DF.

It makes perfect sense for the contact area of a sword to be larger than the wound contact area of the upper body. There's variation in how much of the weapon actually hits when the unit isn't legendary at their skill, which is almost always. This is what "can't hit squarely", "can only graze" etc. mean in adv. mode.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

The skin is the best part! D:

This is way too late, but i don't think it was the skin, I once ate a Kiwi as a child and had pins and needles on my tongue for at least a couple hours afterwards.
'Twas a bit sweet for me anyway, so I never had another one again.

[Sergarr]

Material barely matters since the weapons are so huge that the momentum is mostly limited by creature's ability to move it, not by its density.

If weapons weren't so big, battles would take forever. Remember that fights aren't 1v1 in most cases in DF.

It makes perfect sense for the contact area of a sword to be larger than the wound contact area of the upper body. There's variation in how much of the weapon actually hits when the unit isn't legendary at their skill, which is almost always. This is what "can't hit squarely", "can only graze" etc. mean in adv. mode.

"Big" as in "[SIZE:300]" way, not [CONTACT_AREA:20000] way.

[Putnam]

I know what you mean.

Also, shear etc. definitely has an effect when attacking armor when not legendary skills. It's kind of an important thing that armor is a last resort.

[Sergarr]

Shear matters for edged weapons, not blunt ones. And it matters a lot.

The differences in performances for different materials for edged weapons are much greater than differences in performances for different materials for blunt weapons.

[Putnam]

Which makes a lot of sense.

[pisskop]

I dont understand what has brought about this wave of dissatisfaction at weapons in DF.  Did they seem broken before you found out how large/small/happy/sad they were?