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[Teneb]

Was entering the building I live in today, walking in after a couple that lives in another part of the building. Suddenly a grey cat just dashes out of nowhere and out into the street. Gave me quite a scare, and I guess someone just lost their pet cat.

[SealyStar]

What did GWG do? I respect that Toady is conservative with his bans, unlike most forum admins I've encountered in my time on the internet, but I don't appreciate how he also tends to be above-averagely opaque about the reasons. Deletes the offending posts so we can't see what went wrong, and distills the reason for the ban to one short sentence that could encompass a huge variety of behaviors.

[GiglameshDespair]

What did GWG do? I respect that Toady is conservative with his bans, unlike most forum admins I've encountered in my time on the internet, but I don't appreciate how he also tends to be above-averagely opaque about the reasons. Deletes the offending posts so we can't see what went wrong, and distills the reason for the ban to one short sentence that could encompass a huge variety of behaviors.

Toady isn't opaque at all about GWG's ban.

I just removed another giant insult-ridden argument between GWG and somebody.  This despite at least seven warnings and a few mutes for this very infraction.  I'm tired of cleaning up after GWG, so GWG has been banned.  Please adjust your games as necessary.

[SealyStar]

What did GWG do? I respect that Toady is conservative with his bans, unlike most forum admins I've encountered in my time on the internet, but I don't appreciate how he also tends to be above-averagely opaque about the reasons. Deletes the offending posts so we can't see what went wrong, and distills the reason for the ban to one short sentence that could encompass a huge variety of behaviors.

Toady isn't opaque at all about GWG's ban.

I just removed another giant insult-ridden argument between GWG and somebody.  This despite at least seven warnings and a few mutes for this very infraction.  I'm tired of cleaning up after GWG, so GWG has been banned.  Please adjust your games as necessary.

He says there was an "insult-ridden argument between GWG and 'somebody'". We don't know who somebody is, or what was said, or who started it, or a number of other important factors in determining whether Toady's decision was justified.

In this particular case, I don't doubt that GWG really did insult someone to the degree where it would be ban-worthy, but this is a good opportunity for me to point out a significant issue with these forums' moderation even in comparison to certain other forums whose mods I'm not a fan of.

[Tiruin]

He says there was an "insult-ridden argument between GWG and 'somebody'". We don't know who somebody is, or what was said, or who started it, or a number of other important factors in determining whether Toady's decision was justified.

In this particular case, I don't doubt that GWG really did insult someone to the degree where it would be ban-worthy, but this is a good opportunity for me to point out a significant issue with these forums' moderation even in comparison to certain other forums whose mods I'm not a fan of.

> Rolepgeek.
> Arguments about the American Civil War [heresay on my part]. Spanning ~80+ posts [or ~2 pages with 50 posts per page as far as I heard]
> Does it matter who started it -_-
> Important other factors? You did note while it's been talked about in the thread in question, This happened?

I'd like no more talk of it though. PM Toady if you've got positive criticism.

[Flying Dice]

What did GWG do? I respect that Toady is conservative with his bans, unlike most forum admins I've encountered in my time on the internet, but I don't appreciate how he also tends to be above-averagely opaque about the reasons. Deletes the offending posts so we can't see what went wrong, and distills the reason for the ban to one short sentence that could encompass a huge variety of behaviors.

Toady isn't opaque at all about GWG's ban.

I just removed another giant insult-ridden argument between GWG and somebody.  This despite at least seven warnings and a few mutes for this very infraction.  I'm tired of cleaning up after GWG, so GWG has been banned.  Please adjust your games as necessary.

He says there was an "insult-ridden argument between GWG and 'somebody'". We don't know who somebody is, or what was said, or who started it, or a number of other important factors in determining whether Toady's decision was justified.

In this particular case, I don't doubt that GWG really did insult someone to the degree where it would be ban-worthy, but this is a good opportunity for me to point out a significant issue with these forums' moderation even in comparison to certain other forums whose mods I'm not a fan of.

Everyone who has participated in forum games with him has probably seen him misbehaving at one point or another, and those are the only people who really have relevant opinions here -- if you didn't interact with him and weren't involved in any instances where he was warned or muted, you don't really have much room to talk about it. In addition, every other ban and mute I've seen in threads I've been active in has been much the same way: someone was out of line, Toady cleaned it up and made a post summarizing what happened and why, and everyone in the thread knew what was going on. Anything else would be excessive -- posting a long diatribe full of quotations would both be rather tasteless and set the wrong tone. It's not some sort of secret police conspiracy, it's handling problems without blowing them up into spectacles. Also what Tiruin said.

That aside, the petition thread already ran its course, so let's maybe not start filling the "X Today" threads with spillover, keep it to PMs eh?

[Parsely]

I was always annoyed whenever he started arguing, but as soon as it was over I'd unconsciously forgive him.

I miss him..

[Sergarr]

I was always annoyed whenever he started arguing, but as soon as it was over I'd unconsciously forgive him.

I miss him..

So, he was like that MAGMA guy?

[Parsely]

I was always annoyed whenever he started arguing, but as soon as it was over I'd unconsciously forgive him.

I miss him..

So, he was like that MAGMA guy?

I don't know who that is.

[Sergarr]

I was always annoyed whenever he started arguing, but as soon as it was over I'd unconsciously forgive him.

I miss him..

So, he was like that MAGMA guy?

I don't know who that is.

He was commonly seen shouting MAAAGMAAAA in various unrelated topics. He was bannen before DF2012.

[Loud Whispers]

God damn, I leave for a week and we necro Necro and someone gets banned.

[MagmaMcFry]

I was always annoyed whenever he started arguing, but as soon as it was over I'd unconsciously forgive him.

I miss him..

So, he was like that MAGMA guy?

I don't know who that is.

He was commonly seen shouting MAAAGMAAAA in various unrelated topics. He was bannen before DF2012.

That was Necro, wasn't it?

Yeah, that was Necro910. If someone on the upper boards posted "Necro, do the thing", you could pretty much guarantee that Necro910 would have the next post.

[TD1]

Oh dear lord he asked him to do it.

I would be quite amused if he somehow, despite the impossibility of it, did post

[Flying Dice]

At least Necro's schtick was only mildly annoying instead of directly and personally annoying. But I did have something of the same habit as GUNIN, probably because GWG was genuinely helpful while we were setting up for that 3.5 kobold campaign of Han's that got about one turn into the first encounter before abruptly ending.

[Loud Whispers]

I oppose the ban yet respect it much the same way with Necro and DrPoo in that it's a saddening event from a forumite we'll miss, yet you can't complain much about the fairness of the judgement, only in how final the judgement is. GwG was constructive as hell, shame he had to get the ban ham.