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[kaijyuu]

Incest is bad in the same sense that living near a nuclear power plant is bad: it probably won't hurt anything if it's a one-time deal, but if you keep doing it for generations things will end with extra heads and insanity.

From a page or two back, but it's pretty disingenuous to assume that people's issues with incest is purely a genetic issue, when in reality it's a massive issue with abuse of parental privilege and responsibility, and in many cases is just outright (sexual) abuse. I'm sure there's plenty of anecdotal tales about fathers and daughters falling in love, but the overwhelming majority of incest these days would come from rape and sexual assault, and not at all a consenting act between two albeit creepy people.

Wincest! It's not a thing.

Well though this is true (probably; I haven't heard of any statistics whatsoever about consensual vs non), the problem is of course rape and sexual assault, not the incest itself.

[Cassandra]

Technically, a queen bee screws her own male children quite frequently. So they do.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Guys. Not a good topic.

[misko27]

Incest is bad in the same sense that living near a nuclear power plant is bad: it probably won't hurt anything if it's a one-time deal, but if you keep doing it for generations things will end with extra heads and insanity.

From a page or two back, but it's pretty disingenuous to assume that people's issues with incest is purely a genetic issue, when in reality it's a massive issue with abuse of parental privilege and responsibility, and in many cases is just outright (sexual) abuse. I'm sure there's plenty of anecdotal tales about fathers and daughters falling in love, but the overwhelming majority of incest these days would come from rape and sexual assault, and not at all a consenting act between two albeit creepy people.

Wincest! It's not a thing.

What if bees commited incest?

what does that even mean

What if bees knew what I meant?
What if bees knew incest statistics?
What if bees were rape staticians?
What if bees were involved?
What if bees didn't like how things were done?
What if forumgoers rebelled against bees?
What if bees were banished to the Upper forums?
What if they weaponized bees?
What if bees were immune to magma?
What if bees walk?
What if necromancer's raised bees?

[Cassandra]

Guys. Not a good topic.

I got involved, though...

[Forums User Meat Wizard]

Technically, a queen bee screws her own male children quite frequently. So they do.

Yes but they're animals. They're not sapient on a level anywhere near approaching ours. To be grumpy at them for breeding with their children is anthropomorphising and not really relevant.

What if bees knew what I meant?
What if bees knew incest statistics?
What if bees were rape staticians?

Are you trying to say anything in particular or just saying nonsense for the sake it?

e: see above, i guess so

[Putnam]

living near a nuclear power plant is bad: it probably won't hurt anything if it's a one-time deal, but if you keep doing it for generations things will end with extra heads and insanity.

Coal power plants gives off more radiation than nuclear, and having a TV on all day will as well.

[Flying Dice]

Incest is bad in the same sense that living near a nuclear power plant is bad: it probably won't hurt anything if it's a one-time deal, but if you keep doing it for generations things will end with extra heads and insanity.

From a page or two back, but it's pretty disingenuous to assume that people's issues with incest is purely a genetic issue, when in reality it's a massive issue with abuse of parental privilege and responsibility, and in many cases is just outright (sexual) abuse. I'm sure there's plenty of anecdotal tales about fathers and daughters falling in love, but the overwhelming majority of incest these days would come from rape and sexual assault, and not at all a consenting act between two albeit creepy people.

Wincest! It's not a thing.

You've halfway convinced me that you're deliberately misinterpreting things.

I say that I don't have a moral issue with incest (generally construed to mean sibling-incest). You claim that I said that I don't have a problem with sexual abuse. That's a pretty blatant strawman. If I said that I didn't have a moral issue with sex, would you claim that I was saying that I was okay with rape? Don't put words in my mouth, not about something like this. Especially not when you're being so damned obvious about it, between the strawman and generalizations. I don't have a whole lot of buttons, but misrepresenting my moral stance is one of them. If I was a little bit more convinced that you were doing it deliberately, I would be a hell of a lot less polite about this.

Thusfar from what I've seen of you, you've made several days of nondescript posts and then suddenly went for stuff that reeks of either stupidity or blatant trolling (Poe's Law, so I'm not certain).

[misko27]

Technically, a queen bee screws her own male children quite frequently. So they do.

Yes but they're animals. They're not sapient on a level anywhere near approaching ours. To bee grumpy at them for breeding with their children is anthropomorphising and not really relevant.

What if bees knew what I meant?
What if bees knew incest statistics?
What if bees were rape staticians?

Are you trying to say anything in particular or just saying nonsense for the sake it?

e: see above, i guess so

What if bees made stupid comments?
What if bees fell into a depression?
What if the edit button was bees?

[Flying Dice]

living near a nuclear power plant is bad: it probably won't hurt anything if it's a one-time deal, but if you keep doing it for generations things will end with extra heads and insanity.

Coal power plants gives off more radiation than nuclear, and having a TV on all day will as well.

Obvious facetious reference to false "common knowledge" is obvious. If it wasn't already obvious, I'm in a rather uninhibited state of mind at the moment, which means that I'm going to be treating nothing seriously except things that really shouldn't be, like petty historical details and stupidity.

[misko27]

Okay, now that I'm done beeing annoying

Guys. Not a good topic.

Excellent point. But your point is bees, unfortunately. Still, we should move to a different topic.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

"Radiation" is a buzzword. It's the type of radiation that matters. Non-ionizing? Irrelevant. Alpha? As long as the source is contained, also irrelevant. Beta and Gamma are where you start to run into the real problems and need specialized shielding.

[Forums User Meat Wizard]

You've halfway convinced me that you're deliberately misinterpreting things.

I say that I don't have a moral issue with incest (generally construed to mean sibling-incest). You claim that I said that I don't have a problem with sexual abuse. That's a pretty blatant strawman. If I said that I didn't have a moral issue with sex, would you claim that I was saying that I was okay with rape? Don't put words in my mouth, not about something like this. Especially not when you're being so damned obvious about it, between the strawman and generalizations. I don't have a whole lot of buttons, but misrepresenting my moral stance is one of them. If I was a little bit more convinced that you were doing it deliberately, I would be a hell of a lot less polite about this.

Thusfar from what I've seen of you, you've made several days of nondescript posts and then suddenly went for stuff that reeks of either stupidity or blatant trolling (Poe's Law, so I'm not certain).

I'm not trying to point words in your mouth, I'm just saying that by making light of it you're normalising and trivialising what is an otherwise serious topic. If you don't like me making assumptions, then don't make open-ended assertions like "I am ok with incest" when a topic like that is not just something you can casually slip into a conversation without someone hopefully going 'wait, what?'. If you want to defend or revile incest, that's your thing, but you can't flip out because I dared to press the point further on a point you failed to introduce any of your actual beliefs on.

For guys who seem to have been going out of their way to tell me this place is one where you can challenge and call each other out on things, everyone sure does seem to gang up on me and call me stupid, trolling, or just devolve into nonsensical posting like misko27 there, whose response to this all is to try and wacky away a discussion and make veiled threats behind calling things 'bees' instead.

[misko27]

You've halfway convinced me that you're deliberately misinterpreting things.

I say that I don't have a moral issue with incest (generally construed to mean sibling-incest). You claim that I said that I don't have a problem with sexual abuse. That's a pretty blatant strawman. If I said that I didn't have a moral issue with sex, would you claim that I was saying that I was okay with rape? Don't put words in my mouth, not about something like this. Especially not when you're being so damned obvious about it, between the strawman and generalizations. I don't have a whole lot of buttons, but misrepresenting my moral stance is one of them. If I was a little bit more convinced that you were doing it deliberately, I would be a hell of a lot less polite about this.

Thusfar from what I've seen of you, you've made several days of nondescript posts and then suddenly went for stuff that reeks of either stupidity or blatant trolling (Poe's Law, so I'm not certain).

I'm not trying to point words in your mouth, I'm just saying that by making light of it you're normalising and trivialising what is an otherwise serious topic. If you don't like me making assumptions, then don't make open-ended assertions like "I am ok with incest" when a topic like that is not just something you can casually slip into a conversation without someone hopefully going 'wait, what?'. If you want to defend or revile incest, that's your thing, but you can't flip out because I dared to press the point further on a point you failed to introduce any of your actual beliefs on.

For guys who seem to have been going out of their way to tell me this place is one where you can challenge and call each other out on things, everyone sure does seem to gang up on me and call me stupid, trolling, or just devolve into nonsensical posting like misko27 there, whose response to this all is to try and wacky away a discussion and make veiled threats behind calling things 'bees' instead.

It appears you are seeing threats where they aren't. We have moved on to a different topic. I think you have a victim-complex. We call people out, and you are trying to force people into your point-of-view, then getting upset when people call you on it.
Unlike bees.

[lordcooper]

You've halfway convinced me that you're deliberately misinterpreting things.

I say that I don't have a moral issue with incest (generally construed to mean sibling-incest). You claim that I said that I don't have a problem with sexual abuse. That's a pretty blatant strawman. If I said that I didn't have a moral issue with sex, would you claim that I was saying that I was okay with rape? Don't put words in my mouth, not about something like this. Especially not when you're being so damned obvious about it, between the strawman and generalizations. I don't have a whole lot of buttons, but misrepresenting my moral stance is one of them. If I was a little bit more convinced that you were doing it deliberately, I would be a hell of a lot less polite about this.

Thusfar from what I've seen of you, you've made several days of nondescript posts and then suddenly went for stuff that reeks of either stupidity or blatant trolling (Poe's Law, so I'm not certain).

I'm not trying to point words in your mouth, I'm just saying that by making light of it you're normalising and trivialising what is an otherwise serious topic. If you don't like me making assumptions, then don't make open-ended assertions like "I am ok with incest" when a topic like that is not just something you can casually slip into a conversation without someone hopefully going 'wait, what?'. If you want to defend or revile incest, that's your thing, but you can't flip out because I dared to press the point further on a point you failed to introduce any of your actual beliefs on.

For guys who seem to have been going out of their way to tell me this place is one where you can challenge and call each other out on things, everyone sure does seem to gang up on me and call me stupid, trolling, or just devolve into nonsensical posting like misko27 there, whose response to this all is to try and wacky away a discussion and make veiled threats behind calling things 'bees' instead.

Try not being stupid in that case.