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[Nivim]

 Where did you learn this if not from experience? They give a ~30% bonus when I used them.

[CobaltKobold]

By checking the bonus to Learning skill that shows up when you hover over it on the character screen? That's how it appears to be implemented. Whether it shows up as +15 or +30 would tell you.

I know that, in MM7, two Bankers don't stack , nor do Bankers stack with Factors, and two Instructors don't stack, but I'll admit that my memory is fuzzy on 6, simply because I didn't actually play it to completion.
Further I remember that skill boost equipment did not stack in 7, though stat boosts(resists, attributes) would.

It's entirely possible I'm substituting memories from 7.

[Nivim]

 In 6 you don't have a bonus to learning skill from teachers and instructors; you have a bonus to experience. The only way you learn it is by killing a creature without the extra instructor, then killing the same creature with the extra instructor.
 The magic item skill boosts in this game are rather vague like "increases the effect of all fire magic". Although from experience I know that such bonuses are great.

[LordBucket]

I see cleric, sorceror and paladin. We still need a fourth party member. Fun is more important than min-maxing. Somebody pick something they'd like.

[Earthquake Damage]

The magic item skill boosts in this game are rather vague like "increases the effect of all fire magic". Although from experience I know that such bonuses are great.

The "increases the effect of X magic" items double your magic skill IIRC.  They're fantastic.  I don't recall how they stack, though.

Also, I love cartographers.  Beyond that, anything goes.  The spellcasters (especially the ones that cast Fly or Town Portal) can be useful early on.  Bankers are mostly useless since gold is cheap.  Instructors are okay, though I normally don't bother.  Master Learning gives a 48% bonus at a bare minimum (3 x [9 + rank] %), which is plenty.  Experience is cheap.  Skill points, however, are at a premium, so consider a +skill hireling.  IIRC there's one that grants +3 to all spell skills.

Speaking of skill points, I recommend making stable runs at the beginning then every year or two after.  IIRC Kriegspire and Darkmoor have no horseshoes.

[Nivim]

 So we aren't playing for a ~high score? I usually try finishing the game (and everything in it) before two and half years pass. One and half if I'm really focusing on it.
 Experience tends to be what I'm low on throughout the entire game.

[CobaltKobold]

In 6 you don't have a bonus to learning skill from teachers and instructors; you have a bonus to experience. The only way you learn it is by killing a creature without the extra instructor, then killing the same creature with the extra instructor.
 The magic item skill boosts in this game are rather vague like "increases the effect of all fire magic". Although from experience I know that such bonuses are great.

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You check (in 7) by mouse-overing your appropriate skill. I don't know if it happens to be so kind in 6, but in 7 doing so would eventually let you figure that "increases effect of _ magic" was 50% rather than a flat bonus as you would see for the bonuses to miscellaneous skills.

And a 15 point bonus to (basic/untrained) learning skill IS a 15% bonus to experience. It's the kind of programming shortcut one'd expect, and I'd be somewhat surprised that they didn't use this shortcut here if they do there.

ontopic, another sorceror would probably be fun.

[Nivim]

in 7

In 6, you don't see those specifics, and I didn't test to see if the expertise of learning skill effected the percent bonus from an instructor. Nearly all of the confusion I've encountered when talking about the Might and Magic line stems from talking about different versions.

[Burnt Pies]

If no one objects, Burnt Pies the Archer will take up the bow, and save the world from whatever it needs saving from!

I've never played any of these games, so I don't have any idea how to min-max, or what skills I can take.

On the other hand, that means I have two characters, which might not be ok.

[CobaltKobold]

Oh, uh right. That thing people do in LPs.

Kobold the sorceror then, f. Water and air. I'd prefer dark later. Stick with daggers.

[Evergod41]

I thought M&M was a card-based game...

[Karnewarrior]

Neh. There was a card game in two of them, it think, though.

Also, updating soon, if dinner does not interrupt.

[Karnewarrior]

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Diary of Zoltan: day 1

Met some other adventurers on the road. Not particularly bright, but they'll do as meat shields in a pinch. They go by odd names, like Burnt Pies, and Acidic... Something. I forget. They're all about as dumb as posts, though the archer shows some promise.



We met just outside of New Scorpigal. I've heard about what happened to Old Scorpigal, and it wasn't pretty. I hope such a thing doesn't happen here. The sky's nice and blue anyways.



We headed off to the inn first off. Everyone decided that now, right before we deal with monsters and bandits, now was the best time to get slammed of their collective brain-cell. I had a nice conversation with a priest of Baa in the corner while they were at the bar, grasping at the towns women. The ones grasping at women, in case I didn't make myself clear, included our woman.



We grabbed some horseshoes from the stables. There weren't any horses, so I don't belive we did any harm, right? Continuing, we stumbled up the hill towards the temple, when we heard the cries of goblins! They were atop the guild of Self, generally being fools. I think a pair were rutting up there. Some poor man poked his head out the door to see what all the fuss was about and got a faceful of hot goblin-on-male-goblin action. He ducked swiftly back into his home, the poor bugger.



I belive now would be a good time to tell you about our inventory. now, the one odd thing about this that you may realize is that Sylia has grown rather attached to her club. She relinquished it for a blade, but she refuses to drop the damn thing. I think I'll sneak it out of her pack someday soon...







We went up to do battle.


Wasn't the best idea I've ever went along with.



I think I'll continue this a little later...

(oh, and Sylia took a piss on a goblin corpse. Nice, girlie, nice. It's a wonder why you don't have a boyfriend.

[LordBucket]

Diary of Zoltan: day 1

Meanwhile, from the perspective of Sylia:

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Diary of Sylia: day 1

Today we met up with a wizardly-looking guy with a moustache on the road who said he wanted to join us. Along with myself and the other two, that makes a total of three people in the party now, so our evil-smiting abilities must be almost double what they were before!

The five of us arrived in new Scorpigal shortly after. The wizard wanted to go talk to the mayor to see if the town had any problems or quests or anything, but I set him straight. Everybody knows that quests come from seedy-looking cloak-wearing strangers in pubs. Still, he spent his time chatting with a local priest, so clearly his heart is in the right place.

Things got a little fuzzy after that. I'm not certain, but I think there might be something strange about the water here. I remember proselytizing to the tavern wenches about how joyous is the life a paladin, how fulfilling it is to live a totally chaste life, to give up carnal knowledge of men in favor of service to god. I offered to show them just how irrelevant a man was to their lives, and at that, Burnt Pies and Acidic Biscuit became suddenly enthusiastic and tried to help me try to persuade a few of them upstairs for a quiet prayer circle, but the wenches seemed uncomfortable with the idea. Goodness...don't they understand their souls are at stake?!?

Having failed to win any converts, I suggested we visit the stables next. Since the others had missed out on seeing my paladin training at work on the barwenches, I thought they might instead like to see how I handled a horse. Burnt Pies' jaw dropped at that suggestion, and he silently nodded argreement. Silly men, so easily impressed. Swordmanship, prayer, and horseback riding are the three main skills of a paladin. Unfortunately the horses were en route to castle ironfist, and the stables were quite empty.  Zoltan wanted to stick around for a few minutes anyway, though. Not sure what he found but he seemed pretty pleased about whatever it was.

Without any leads, I led the party northward to the local temple. But, scarcely before we'd begun to climb the hill my paladin-senses tingled. and I smelled...

...evil? In MY path of righteousness?!?!

Awesome!!!

A small pack of goblins were on the roof of the Self guild. We charged up the stairs and slaughtered those green, slimy heathens! How dare they pollute such holy ground with their nastiness! Naturally, I cleansed their corpses thoroughly with holy water. Zoltan even respectfully averted his gaze during the ritual, and hasn't spoken to me since. Obviously he was so in awe of the holy works done this day that he's taken a vow of silence to commemorate them.

It was a good day.

[mainiac]

The dueling perspectives are win but... holy water?!?!?