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BigJake

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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2010, 02:51:50 am »

I'm simply dying to know which tower is your muse here.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2010, 03:08:59 am »

I'm simply dying to know which tower is your muse here.

I tried to Google it. I failed miserably.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2010, 03:10:56 am »

One tile is half as wide as the length of two tiles.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2010, 04:16:16 am »

THE TOWER OF BABYLON?!?!
IF SO I FREAKING LOVE YOU!
HAVE MY BABIES, ALL OF THEM.
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BigJake

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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2010, 04:25:46 am »

Every "measurement" for the Tower of Babel I've seen is either thousands of meters or, like, 200-300.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2010, 04:31:57 am »

why not just build it 97 tiles high and 19 tiles wide. if this is to small go for 194 tiles height and 38 tile width.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2010, 09:04:45 am »

Since people asked, here is the tower that provided the inspiration:



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Which is, of course, John Howe's interpretion of Barad-dur. I intend to follow this design to the minutest detail.
the '970 meters' came from a scenary sculpting blog which stated that extrapolating from the size of the WETA bigature and the official WETA actual-to-model scale, the tower was 970 meters high. There is another site that claims that using the same method the estimated height is 1550 meters, but I prefer the 970 meters opinion.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2010, 09:43:21 am »

1 tile is exactly one cubic Urist.
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LoSboccacc

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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2010, 10:09:05 am »

isn't that supposed to be adamantine?

good luck  :D
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 10:19:07 am »

Actually, according to the book the predominant material is rock. The cue is that the entire thing is framed and plated in blackened steel, and the foundations (and core structure) are strengthened by Sauron's power. I'm planning on casting the whole tower in obsidian(right color, and also this is way quicker than building the thing), and putting steel plates on top of it.

However, the word 'adamant' in the book's text CAN be interpretted as adamantine. So, you MIGHT be right.

although, the cyan color would look totally wrong on the tower, so... I guess I'll place adamantine inside the structure :D
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 10:22:35 am »

this is one of the few descriptive passage:

"..wall upon wall, battlement upon battlement, black, immeasurably strong, mountain of iron, gate of steel, tower of adamant... Barad-dûr, fortress of Sauron"

of which I'm not sure and which is, of course subject to interpretations

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meto30

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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2010, 10:33:59 am »

There is also a picture by JRR Tolkien himself which shows one of the walls of the tower. It seems to be pitch-black stone masonry, piled up in the style of bricks, with same-colored battlements and grey pointy spikes on top. JRR Tolkien apparently thought of Barad-dur as a pretty wide structure, since the walls seem to continue on to the sides but is not very tall. Perhaps just a curtain wall...

However as I posted before I'm following the movie version with 100% faithfulness. Thus, the structure will be pure obsidian with steel plates attached. And steel battlements.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2010, 12:38:41 pm »

Do you have a link to that Tolkien drawing?  I'd like to see that and a quick search didn't turn it up.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2010, 07:47:52 pm »



Here it is.
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Re: How wide is a tile?
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2010, 07:56:35 pm »

Dont make this tower, or Armok will kill your dwarfs with he's acid blood! Dont joke with the blood god!
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