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[RAM]

Locate object is a spell Myst knows that could find the item, it would take a good long while to search the city with it, but they could logically start at the docks and all the new folk brought in to find the new menace. Always suspect the foreigners, which we are...

Anyway, the forge should be as good as a sheet of lead, which should block most stuff. Or we could try one of those stasis boxes that the library gave us. And Mael apparently has a lead box, which may be combined with one of the other approaches or just leave it buried someplace and wait to see if they manage to find it regardless.

Spoiler: I don't speak journalese (click to show/hide)

Throughout the past few days I have done something unfortunate. While I am glad to have claimed some power from the established deities, I fear that it may threaten my purpose. I learned much of my abilities and hope that I would be more focused were I to attempt similar in the future, as I wasted far too much effort in abortd activities. Should my companions be mindful of the risks involved, and not act in a courageous fashion we may well come to prosper. Though I am loathe to biding my time in this manner, it cannot be helped when dealing with such powerful forces. I will leave instructions to refrain from making use of our gains unless a specific need arises or we find more powerful wardings.

I find myself wondering if the powers could be rediriected into an alternate form. If I could repurpose it to my own agenda it may prove to be a powerful ally. Surely my associate would have a shortage of such tokens and would be due such a boon. I must set about preparing myself to fulfil our task...

I am interested in pursuing magical research at some point, I am wondering about the D.M.s view on the following spell:

Spoiler: I based it upon the Hallow spell (click to show/hide)

Attune Waters
Conjuration [alignment]
Clr 3?
Components:    V, S, M(1000gp), DF
Casting Time:    24 hours
Range:    Touch
Area:    40-ft. radius emanating from the touched point
Duration:    Instantaneous
Saving Throw:    None
Spell Resistance:    No

This spell creates a stable conduit between a deity with an aquatic portfolio and a location and is used by clerics to promote their deity's influence and to convert unassuming locations into places of power. This spell has a number of permanent effects:

All water within the radius will be regarded as having the alignment of the deity, causing in 2d4 damage per round to outsiders or undead with an opposed alignment.

Worshippers of the Deity gain a +1 bonus to their caster level, this bonus will be profane if clerics of the deity normally channel negative energy, and sacred if they normally channel positive energy.

Creatures in the area sharing an alignment with the Deity are considered to recieve a successful healing check every round, automatically stabilising if reduced to negative hit points and recovering from certain ongoing effects such as a Barbazu's Infernal Wound ability or the land-speed penalty of the Spike Growth spell.

While within the radius, creatures may treat air and water identically for the purposes of breathing.


The area radiates a strong alignment-based aura or a weak aura of all alignments if the deity in question is neutral.

The effect can be removed by introducing 1000gp worth of water aligned to an alignment not shared by the deity into the radius, the aligned water is neutralised in the process.

Material component A holy symbol of the specified deity worth at least 1000 gp.

[Kogan Loloklam]

Hunted Trait + 7 Ranks of Spot, Would that classify as "Spot 10 Ranks" for the purpose of getting the feat "Deft Strike"?

[RedWarrior0]

Myst: perhaps have something where water removed from the source loses its alignment? Otherwise that+dust of dryness can be used for all sorts of purposes. Want to assassinate, say, Demogorgon? 100 gallons of Holy or Lawful water produced at effectively 10 gp to the gallon. How much damage is that? Lots.

[Kogan Loloklam]

Okay, so here's a pair of Journals.

Spoiler: Pheron sits in the inn and updates his Journal (click to show/hide)

Vaba came back. I informed him he wasn't welcome, and then the rest of the party, which for whatever reason had decided to return to Bote, informed me that indeed he was welcome. Vaba had only been with us a short time, and yet he somehow encouraged a great deal of internal strife. I don't see what the other people see in him, but I believe him to be a master manipulator. I have left the expedition. I took my personal gear and some of the stuff I outfitted the ship with. I intend to fulfill my promise to assist the city, and then begin a journey home. This seems much wiser of a course of action than waiting for Vaba to shoot me in the back, or worse.

Spoiler: Stihe's letter to Andre (click to show/hide)

Dearest Andre, I hope this letter finds you well. I have been so worried about you, with your lack of communication for so long. Well I've been in contact with a mutual friend of ours. You remember Konston? Well he seems to be a little unhappy about a financial decision I made, and I have decided it might be better to end my association with him. I'm afraid this has left me out in the cold. I remember that you found an interesting Hobby when you went (there is a blot of ink, obscuring what she wrote first) on vacation, and I figured I'd come and visit you to see how it's going. I'm sure we'll get along just like we used to.
Sincerely, Stihe Clearwater

Edit: Got the sheet ready. This character will be a Spellthief. It has some very interesting abilities that I'm looking forward to playing with. It also has the ability to detect and disable traps, which is a skill that is not very well represented in the group.
Physical description, She's a 15 year old halfling, and probably looks about the size of a toddler, although a bit more developed than that. She'll be wearing desert clothing most likely when she is seen. She has Brown Hair and Brown eyes, and has a family resemblance to Andre.
Stihe Clearwater

[Dsarker]

RAM, I don't believe clerics can do magical research.

[Dwarmin]

Andre Clearwater finds it hard to write a response. He had made peace with the fact that his family and friends were not going to follow his path, and probably had disowned him. To get a letter from his sister Stihe, warmed his heart. Maybe she was looking for a new life as well?

Spoiler: Andre's letter to Stihe (click to show/hide)

      Beloved Sister

Yes, it has been too long. In truth, I was afraid you all thought I had turned my back on you...but to read your words fills me with hope. As much as I wanted to stay and protect you-I knew that you would only resent me for it, and chose my own way, leaving you to yours. Also, I never expected you to approve of my...eccentric decision, but I'm glad to hear you have come to terms with it.

As for me, my Druid skills have progressed slowly, but surely-I preformed my first summoning in combat not a day ago. Back then, If someone had told me I would be making angry Wolverines appear from thin air, I would have called them mad....and, I've joined a crew of like-minded explorers and adventurers. They could always use a steady hand such as yours, assuming your street skills are up to par-sadly, I can barely pick a lock these days, I'm so out of practice. You might find me different than the young man who used to run laughing over rooftops with you under the full moon, but I'm still the brother you always knew.

As for Konston, well...he eventually betrays everyone who trusts him-like he did me. He is a sad sort of creature, to live such a life, and I pity him.

Watch your back little sister-Konston bears grudges badly, and his reach is long.

    Hoping to see you safe again, your Brother, Andre.

(Enclosed is a fresh petal from a flower)

[Theoboldi]

Journal Time!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have good news. the enchantment of the hand was a complete success. It works and is hanging around my neck as I am writing this. In further news one of clerics, Kimiko if I remember right, has been asking asking me for help in the solving of a problem with her alchemical studies. I was glad to help, and told that for solving her problem, she needed to get a common ingredient called iodine powder. After that I was able to show her the hand, and to my surprise didn't get any lectures about the unholyness of my ways. It is good to finally have someone I can halfways trust on this ship.

In other news, some weird looking traveller called Vaba has joined the group. It seems he travelled with the group before, but was banished for some incident involving some young dragons and a dwarfen demon child. I have decided to not pose too many questions and just accept the decision of the group. Sadly, Pheron left the group when he saw himself unable to get rid of Vaba. It is always bad when there is one less person between you and your enemies.

Also, it seems Mael has gotten himself a familiar. It is a wolf, which apparently he found in the streets. It is annoying that I had to work so hard to bring life to freddy, and he just finds some lousy dog on the street. But when complained about it, that paladin decided it would be the perfect opportunity to give me alecture about not using necromancy. He talked about how raising the dead is evil, and how the dead should rest, blah blah blah. I hate those hypocritical holymen, always going on about the evils of my ways, when their gods do exactly the same. I never saw anyone complain about a cleric bringing back the dead, or about the gods being immortal.
My Arguments only found deaf ears though, as I would have expected.
I hate paladins.

Also, here is a little homebrewed spell which I made after our recent arguments.

Spoiler: Vader's Choking Hand (click to show/hide)

Evokation [force]

Level: wiz/sor 2, clr 2
Components: V, S
Casting time: one standard action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Effect: Chokes one person
Duration: Concentration
Saving throw: None
Spell Resistance: None

An invisible hand closes itself around the targets neck, choking him for 2d6 damage per round, as long as the casters holds his concentration on the target. The caster must make an concentration check equal to 10+ target STR Modifier every round. Creatures that do not breathe, like undead or constructs, are unaffected by this spell.

[Kogan Loloklam]

(Enclosed is a fresh petal from a flower)

Aww, you sent her flowers

Shoruke, Some Questions

Pickpocketing Questions
A couple of things... Are we using Pickpocketing as a direct Slight of hand check, or can we do this?
I'm a little unhappy with the difficulty from a slight of hand to do a pickpocketing attempt, since it's the same check to do a Great performance, so I am hoping for the variant rule.

Spelltheft Questions
If the spell is a willing gift from a spontaneous caster like a Sorcerer, does it still disable that spell for 1 minute? (10 rounds is a long time for a sorcerer to be unable to cast their spell. I can see it being so if the spellthief was "rough", but it seems like a lot for a gift.)
Spells for spelltheft in non-combat theft, how is that going to be done? It says in lieu of 1d6 sneak attack, which makes me think it's about the element of surprise. I think it might fit as a Bluff check, like a Non-Combat Faint. Is this correct?
Would stealing a spell be immediately apparent to the victim? Nothing will say "Fun times" like breaking into a church and stealing their healing spells in addition to their most precious artifacts
Are creatures that are immune to critical hits invulnerable to spelltheft? Liches are the things I am thinking of off the top of my head. It says refer to the Rogue's Sneak attack, but it seems silly that stealing spells is justified by hitting someone in the liver or whatnot.

Thieves Guilds Questions
Does Spelltheft register on a Typical Thieves guild radar? Am I gonna have to worry about percentages to the local boys for doing a little cutbooking on the side?

Metamagic Questions
Does Eschew Materials work with stolen spells, or does this count too much like Metamagic?
If a Sorcerer is gifting a spell, can they gift it with Metamagic applied to it?

[RedWarrior0]

RAM, I don't believe clerics can do magical research.

Counterpoint.

[Kogan Loloklam]

Another question, Handy Haversack for a Small character, does it still weigh 5 Lbs?

[RedWarrior0]

Request. Cheese Golem. 35 gold, Nigh-infinite stats.

Storm Elemental for summoning (Monster Manual III Page 48)
I can PM you the stats, but suggested summoning stuff is basically "Summon at one spell level higher than normal elementals":

Small: Summon Monster IV/Summon Nature's Ally III
Medium: SM VI/SNA V
Large: SM VII/SNA VI
Huge: SM VIII/SNA VII
Greater: SM IX/ SNA VIII

Also, I just realized that Animal Companions get standard ability score increases at multiples of 4. Fixifying.

[RAM]

Myst: perhaps have something where water removed from the source loses its alignment? Otherwise that+dust of dryness can be used for all sorts of purposes. Want to assassinate, say, Demogorgon? 100 gallons of Holy or Lawful water produced at effectively 10 gp to the gallon. How much damage is that? Lots.

All water within the radius will be regarded as having the alignment of the deity, causing in 2d4 damage per round to outsiders or undead with an opposed alignment.

I read it to be that the alignment is a property of the radius and that the water is not permanently affected. I also tried to word it such that the damage was fixed, and would not inflict any further damage even if the creature was completely immersed. But text to that affect would be welcome... It is probably broken to have the water truly be appropriately aligned water, as that would allow it to be used as spell components and such. What I really want out of it is an ability to permanently 'bless' a water-course to my deity. Once they have enough such sites blessed to them they should be able to manifest a major servant or something to renew their influence in this part of the world.

As for divine research, I would envision it as more of a case of the deity coming up with a spell and the cleric recieving it. It would probably require some sort of special conditioning or something on the part of the cleric due to the spell's lack of generations worth of refinement for clerical spellcasting or some similar justification for a cleric to spend reasearching resources. Of course, given that clerics can worship an alignment or ideal, it is probably that the clerics recieve pure divine energy and can shape it into whatever spells they want...

P.S.
 I would suggest that if someone was spotted making a disarm attempt that they could take an attack of opportunity, just as a rogue who spots their ambushers and wins initiative can act before the ambushers do...

[Kogan Loloklam]

P.S.
 I would suggest that if someone was spotted making a disarm attempt that they could take an attack of opportunity, just as a rogue who spots their ambushers and wins initiative can act before the ambushers do...

Is this referencing the Revised Pickpocket variant stuff?

I thought that it covered that, it says

If your attempt to hide the pickpocketing fails, your attempt provokes an attack of opportunity from the target.

[Heron TSG]

I would suggest that if someone was spotted making a disarm attempt that they could take an attack of opportunity, just as a rogue who spots their ambushers and wins initiative can act before the ambushers do...

Disarm already incurs an AoO without the Improved Disarm feat.

[RAM]

It is in reference to the revised pickpocket variant, which states that the first pickpocket attempt is exempt from attacks of opportunity. The bit about stopping the attack with an AoO appears to only apply to multiple attempts immediately after the first...