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Author Topic: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 7 - Game over! All Hail Criptfeind!  (Read 52316 times)

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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #405 on: September 24, 2010, 01:36:52 pm »

That's actually pretty much what I'm doing, assuming that you're Cabal.

And yes, I believe that you would be perfectly capable of killing off people that have been helping you for WIFOM purposes.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #406 on: September 24, 2010, 01:55:51 pm »

You believe this when you and I both openly recognize that these would be a terrible choices for Scum-Me to make, and would yield worse results than the obvious, easier, and less dangerous alternative. Really now?

Might I add that I love how you didn't even pause to consider anything. You just shrugged it off and said "Yup! :o".
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #407 on: September 24, 2010, 01:59:49 pm »

Your points make sense, but JTF is right; all of your questions can be answered with the simple response of "WIFOM." If I were in your position, then everything that you just suggested as a bad idea or a joke would be pretty much the perfect move to make, in order to set up that very argument. Do you have anything to say to that?
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #408 on: September 24, 2010, 02:00:32 pm »

No, I don't think those are terrible choices for you to make.  Assuming you are scum, you made them.  They're working.  Besides helping you, Vector and Jim had something else in common: they were active.  Not something in overabundance right about now.

The scum are *very* close to completely controlling the game.  It's not quite over because there can still be scum infighting before the final duel, but it just about might as well be.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #409 on: September 24, 2010, 02:07:14 pm »

I was not intending on proposing a scenario that reeked of poor judgement and supidity, only to have you buy into it. I'm frankly a bit surprised.

I'd agree that Scum are indeed near to controlling the majority. As such, I'd assume that if I were Scum, I'd have people leaping to my defense now to secure the Cabal a win. However, I don't see that. Instead, I see Janus and Jokerman nodding in agreement that I should die instead of Leafsnail. Do you two not find this curious?
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #410 on: September 24, 2010, 02:10:50 pm »

You're not even fighting Leafsnail... you're fighting Lonewolf I.

And no.  I'm not suprised that no one is leaping to your defense.  There's been precious little leaping of any sort recently.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #411 on: September 24, 2010, 02:14:45 pm »

Defense-leaping would require activity.

And seeing as only the three of us are posting, if we wanted that all three of us would have to be scum, which I, at least, am not.

Of course, that question/statement also reeks of WIFOM, Soli my love.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #412 on: September 24, 2010, 02:19:33 pm »

I remembered my opponent was "That L-Guy". I haven't finished catching up through today, much less started reading into my arena opponent, and whether or not they may be Scum... such that their cohorts would leap on their Opponent. :3

With 3-4 Cabal, I wouldn't deny that you two could indeed be Scum together, since your opinions pretty much fall in line with one another. It's within reason to think that That L-Guy is too, hence the vehemency here. To ensure the death of a Townie today is to more or less secure a Cabal victory.

Activity is down, though. I've been no stranger to that. I'll finish up my pass through the thread, and be back with my suspicions this evening.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #413 on: September 24, 2010, 02:21:13 pm »

As a reminder to the combatants, Solifuge and Lonewolf I both need to PM me with their choice of Attack Element.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #414 on: September 24, 2010, 03:50:53 pm »

Solly your entire defense is WIFOM and "If I was Cabal the Cabal would help me but instead everyone is helping the other guy" when it is still a tie in assists. You have seemed off most of the game, I can not put my finger on it but I have felt bad about you for most of it. Lynching you is what I feel is the best chance to hit scum.

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« Reply #415 on: September 24, 2010, 05:47:22 pm »

My "entire defense" is not WIFOM, it's a clearly-delineated train of logic; a question posed to people, to inspire them to Think. Also a "Tie in Assists" is irrelevant, as I was arguing with people who were verbally attacking me, not people who were supporting Lonewolf. Namely Jokerman, who agreed on all counts with Janus and joined in the verbal attacks, and yet made no solid moves for or against me.

...additionally, people have been parroting that "I have no evidence or solid reasoning behind it, but still have convinced myself that you're Scum" statement all game. Intuition is great when there's no evidence whatsoever, but by this point you have plenty of evidence, actions to read into, and so on. Use logic, not superstition.
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« Reply #416 on: September 24, 2010, 06:42:51 pm »

My "entire defense" is not WIFOM, it's a clearly-delineated train of logic; a question posed to people, to inspire them to Think. Also a "Tie in Assists" is irrelevant, as I was arguing with people who were verbally attacking me, not people who were supporting Lonewolf. Namely Jokerman, who agreed on all counts with Janus and joined in the verbal attacks, and yet made no solid moves for or against me.

...additionally, people have been parroting that "I have no evidence or solid reasoning behind it, but still have convinced myself that you're Scum" statement all game. Intuition is great when there's no evidence whatsoever, but by this point you have plenty of evidence, actions to read into, and so on. Use logic, not superstition.
A clearly delineated train of logic that starts with the phrase "Assume I'm Cabal."  Seriously.  It doesn't get more WIFOM than that.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #417 on: September 24, 2010, 07:01:45 pm »

Criptfeind inscribes Blue runes of Earth in the air above Lonewolf I to give him a Defense Boost
JanusTwoface inscribes Black and White runes of Earth in the air above Lonewolf I to give him a Defense Boost
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #418 on: September 24, 2010, 07:16:53 pm »

My "entire defense" is not WIFOM, it's a clearly-delineated train of logic; a question posed to people, to inspire them to Think. Also a "Tie in Assists" is irrelevant, as I was arguing with people who were verbally attacking me, not people who were supporting Lonewolf. Namely Jokerman, who agreed on all counts with Janus and joined in the verbal attacks, and yet made no solid moves for or against me.

...additionally, people have been parroting that "I have no evidence or solid reasoning behind it, but still have convinced myself that you're Scum" statement all game. Intuition is great when there's no evidence whatsoever, but by this point you have plenty of evidence, actions to read into, and so on. Use logic, not superstition.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 3 Set-Up Phase
« Reply #419 on: September 24, 2010, 08:26:57 pm »

A clearly delineated train of logic that starts with the phrase "Assume I'm Cabal."  Seriously.  It doesn't get more WIFOM than that.

What the heck are you even seeing, Lonewolf? I'm pointing out the logical fallacy in the assumption that I'm Scum. I would have had to knowingly sabotage myself not once but twice, with nothing to gain from it at all. I would have stuck my neck out for nothing, and killed off the people who I had convinced (even if only partially) that I was town. How does that even remotely make sense?

If you think I'd do it for WIFOM, you're misguided. It's much easier to sit back and join the rabble than it is to present an original opinion, and it's safer.
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