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[Vector]

Oh my god, why is this game packed with only people from the happiness thread ._.

Town ICs, get your asses in here and help out!

[ein]

Because the game was advertised in the Happy Thread as a way for some regulars to get into the game?
Also, Realmfighter.

[Realmfighter]

Wait what, there are rules?

[Vector]

Because the game was advertised in the Happy Thread as a way for some regulars to get into the game?
Also, Realmfighter.

Yes, I know.  Trust me, I'm glad to see you guys, but at the same time I'm wondering why I'm the only experienced player overlooking this cat prison right now :I

Wait what, there are rules?

Oh god.  Just go read the OP.

[Aqizzar]

Be that as it may ein, shut up about your Toohoo crap now.  Some of us are trying to have a real game here.  As a matter of fact, I'm penciling you in for the next day's lynching.

[Realmfighter]

Wait what, there are rules?

Oh god.  Just go read the OP.

This may be caused by my rampant stupidity, but i see nothing in the OP about not editing your posts.

[webadict]

The blood is filled with CHARISMA

This is about the point I started loading my gun.

Wait what, there are rules?

This is the point where the screen was full of holes. Hopefully, bullets travel through cyberspace.

[Vector]

This may be caused by my rampant stupidity, but i see nothing in the OP about not editing your posts.

Then I am sorry and may have to go take a bounty on someone's life.

Don't edit, guys.  Important rule.

[JoshuaFH]

Wait what, there are rules?

Oh god.  Just go read the OP.

This may be caused by my rampant stupidity, but i see nothing in the OP about not editing your posts.

I mentioned it earlier:

I vote Tack

I mean, seriously, just look at him. guilty as hell.

EDIT! DON'T YOU EDIT EVER OR I WILL FIND YOU!

How did I not notice that the rules I copypasted didn't include a rule about editing? Yeah, for all you new players, editing your posts in mafia is not allowed. This is to avoid chicanery and mischief.

I just altered the OP to reflect this, along with some other staple rules of mafia that I can't believe were forgotten.

[Realmfighter]

I'll be in the back, killing myself in shame.

[webadict]

Here's a gun.

[Vector]

And now, once again...

For all of the newbies and not-so-newbies, I present...

Spoiler: Dakarian's Guide to Scumhunting! (click to show/hide)

A VERY rough sketch of how a scumhunt is done (to help those who aren't sure now).


Step 1: When you have no suspicions on anyone, pick someone at random (I MEAN random.. some use Random.org for this!), take a glance as their past posts, and talk to them, usually with a vote.  The goal is not to kill but to learn more about them.  The vote is a "Pressure Vote", simply used to make sure they don't ignore you.

Step 2: When someone feels 'off' to you: perhaps you disliked their answer, or maybe they scare you, or confuse you with their text.  Perhaps they look fine but your feelings or your gut says something is wrong. Perhaps you see them do one scumtell.  Don't ignore it: make them your target.  Attack them.  Tell them what bothers you about them.  Push them, harass them.  Tell them how scummy they are.  Ask them every question in the book.. and I mean EVERYTHING:

Litia: "You bother me.  Vote Dakarian!"

Dak: Meh.  Why?

Litia: "Because you bother me.  Why are you pushing me off as if it doesn't matter?"

Dak: "What? No, you just have nothing on me."

Litia: "You're voting for Vector.  why?"

Dak: "He looked scummy.."

Litia: "Vagueness is a scumtell!  "Scummy.. how is he scummy!"

Dak: "He just is.. you don't have a reason to go after me either."

Litia: "OMGUSing now Mr.Scum?  Being defensive?  You also didn't answer my question!"


Note, this is Step 2: Litia doesn't feel like she knows Dakarian is scum.. just had a 'feeling'.  She has no hard evidence, nothing real.  The questions are to add pressure.. make Dakarian crack and panic.  If you did it right, they WILL town or scum.  WHEN they do, you will be able to see more of their true self.  From there, decide if you can find them as scum for truth.  If you don't: pull out and go to your next suspect: if no one else is there, go back to Step 1.

If you do believe they are scum after that, Step 3:


Step 3: When you believe someone is scum, gather evidence.  Find every scum tell, every sign of their true motives.  Pull more from them.  DON'T LET GO!  Even if the town ignores you or even votes for you because of it, DO IT ANYWAY!  Push, push, PUSH, ***PUSH*** until you have solid proof of what they are.

If you can't find enough to prove them and run out of things to say, check one more time to see if you still feel he's scum, then pull back, look at others (Step 2) but be ready to go back to them at any time.  If your convinced and ready to kill them, Step 4

Step 4: Final step.  It's time to convince the town.  Show what you have.  Push the target so they show more scumminess.  Attack, but do it only to demonstrate to the town what you KNOW is true.  You aren't trying to argue with the mafia anymore.. you are trying to show the town why you are right and Mr.Mafia MUST be lynched.  If you are at this point, only 3 things can happen:

1.  The scum is lynched.
2. You are given so much information that you become CONVINCED that the target is town. (no less than CONVINCED.. doubt, maybe, 'perhaps' won't due)
3. You are dead.



That's how a basic scumhunt is done.  One last note on doubt:

Doubt is something that's ok to have but UGLY to show.  If you doubt or have second thoughts, DON'T DISPLAY IT.  If you think "He looks passive but I don't know..."  you SAY "You scum!  Stop being passive!!!"  If you think "He may have a good reason to attack guy really." say "Give me your reasons and stop being vague."

Doubt is something for yourself.  When you have doubt, go back and see if your original ideas still hold up.  If they do or if you find yourself saying "I'm not sure" then go back to the attack until you are sure.  This ain't the USA: we play by Guilty until Proven Innocent here.  Unless you can get yourself to believe they may be honest, keep the attack.

So doubt is ok to have if used right.. but the town does NOT need to hear it.  If you doubt, accuse anyway as if you know.  If you wonder, accuse as if you know it.  If you know the answer, ASK ANYWAY and let THEM answer.  Make them convince you they are town: don't do the job for them.


And that's scumhunting in a nutshell.  Everyone, try to figure out what Step you are on and work accordingly.  Note that you should be almost done Step 1 by the end of Day 1 (though some may be higher by then).  If you aren't, keep random voting and consider an Extension.

If you don't know WHAT you are.. you're in Step 1.  Get to random voting.

Last note: 'Not voting' should only be done when you are doing a quick look over everyone's past.  Otherwise, your vote and your attention should always be on SOMEONE, even if it is at random.

It's best for a lynch to be for a reason reason.. but it's better for someone to be lynched randomly than for no lynch to occur at all.

Seriously: read it and use it.  It is your friend.

[Tack]

We were doing so well before you threw in Dakaran's bible.

Can we just get on with the game?

Needless to say, ein wants the votes on Zathras. Which means he wants the votes not on him.
Zathras Hasn't Actually defended himself yet. And when I go through his mafia history, he usually talks a whole lot of crap when he's town, and doesn't talk much when he's scum.
So he might possibly be town.

However, as I said, we can always lynch him next.

I also call for a day reduction, because we've all pretty much got our votes in.

Also, Duke is lurking, FoS.

[ToonyMan]

What the fuck, why can't I sleep without people posting spam in a mafia game.  This is a mafia game, not some god dam nail polish session.

[Tack]

See, that's the difference between Beginner's Mafia, and GD mafia.

Ein is here, touhou stuff appears.
Realmfighter is here, Troll stuff appears.
Touhou stuff is here, Janet appears.

Stupidness abounds, Aqizzar appears.

And then everything fixes up again.