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Author Topic: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Trust-o-nomics Edition  (Read 3749856 times)

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36600 on: May 12, 2014, 08:57:07 am »

Uh, Yoink, they're not really standing up to the "full wrath of the government".
They're not going to send in the army just for some cows. It's people overreacting and then trying to set themselves up as the local government or similar authority.
Your police would qualify for an army in 1st world countries. They sent hundreds of armed officers, helicopters, artillery, APCs... Your police have already acquired battle tanks rescue vehicles too. I'd imagine they'd have sent them as well if they had em ready.

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36601 on: May 12, 2014, 10:00:21 am »

My idiot brother and the stupid, fatass whore he dragged home to consume all our money continue to have neither the courage to admit when they make a mistake nor the decency to apologize when one of us is hurt because of it.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36602 on: May 12, 2014, 10:09:28 am »

For the whole Bundy case it is pushing more for state control of the BLM lands asit is outrageous on the amount of federal control over these lands(one joke in colorado where a mile hike in a forest you would cross 5 different government agencies). Here in Utah we found the whole deal nonsense since we had bigger issues here like the rampant population of inbred wild horses eaten up the range and more idiots breaking rules. You may not like federal control but you are limited to options and i assume Bundy was going to be used as an example since his shit goes back for years. As for me, i have more grumblings that im only allowed to target practice on BLM lands since the state land is closed for that.

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36603 on: May 12, 2014, 01:29:21 pm »

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36604 on: May 12, 2014, 03:34:52 pm »

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36605 on: May 12, 2014, 03:36:32 pm »

. . . That doesn't really pass the scrutiny of real life. The types who showed up to his ranch are no different than the kind of people who show up to any protest, be it against wall street, or the UN, or whaling, it's just the specific flavor and the issue that changes.

Accusing a rancher of forming his ranch into a psuedo-feudal system is more than a little ridiculous.

When groups of organized private individuals oppose legal government action with lethal force over political issues, we call that "domestic terrorism". They're around a hair away from that in Arizona right now, and all it'll take is one idiot deciding that he's going to stand his ground a bit more emphatically. Also, they're literally occupying public land and forcing citizens to comply with their desires in the pursuit of the agenda of a single individual.

No, I perfectly meant illegal. It's illegal for the federal government to take personal property without the approval of the State (and Nevada specifically disagreed with the Federal decision here). More likely though, the presence of armed protesters is an incredible, incredible deterrent to police brutality.


The government took over the management of land that'd been grazed by his family for literally decades and legal action was pursed by both sides in a bunch of different courts for a number of years. When court cases continued to decide in favor of Bundy, the government's response was to force the issue with the threat of force.
Taken directly from the constitution of Nevada, codified in 1864:
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Third. That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States

Bundy's claim dates to 1880. Furthermore, the Bunkerville Allotment, like much of the land in the Southwest, was purchased from Mexico by the federal government in 1848. Additionally, there is a statute known as the Taylor Grazing Act, passed in the 1930s, which specifically states that issuance of a grazing permit does not create ownership. His family grazed their herds on public land.

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So far as consistent with the purposes and provisions of this subchapter, grazing privileges recognized and acknowledged shall be adequately safeguarded, but the creation of a grazing district or the issuance of a permit pursuant to the provisions of this subchapter shall not create any right, title, interest, or estate in or to the lands.

Sorry bro, as someone who makes his bread and butter by being naked government force, the act of motivated, organized protesters kinda shows that the government is in the wrong. If it issue isn't important enough for BLM to escalate, then it's not exactly the kind of issue worth trying to back charge a guy for decades of arguable use of land

Sorry bro, but not doing the research and believing that the ability to threaten with deadly force equates to a just cause kinda shows that that argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Incidentally, you said in the same post that armed protestors are a good deterrent to police brutality? Guess what else they're good at deterring? Apart from the BLM agents that tried to move the herd and were forced to leave at gunpoint, that is.


Granted, the BLM is rather heavyhanded, but government straying from the ideal doesn't give people the right to start carving out private fiefdoms, especially when the motivating factor behind it is naked greed and misrepresentation of founding principles.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36606 on: May 12, 2014, 04:14:49 pm »

Yes, I only thought after I'd posted, and then I was too busy to want to edit it in.

If armed protest equates to right, then a Muslim protest featuring guns is automatically right. Logic?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36607 on: May 12, 2014, 04:15:59 pm »

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36608 on: May 12, 2014, 04:38:28 pm »

I'm all for angry politics but can we keep them in their respective threads?

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36609 on: May 12, 2014, 04:46:02 pm »


Bundy's claim dates to 1880. Furthermore, the Bunkerville Allotment, like much of the land in the Southwest, was purchased from Mexico by the federal government in 1848. Additionally, there is a statute known as the Taylor Grazing Act, passed in the 1930s, which specifically states that issuance of a grazing permit does not create ownership. His family grazed their herds on public land.


http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-under-scrutiny

"Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt."

"Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn't start grazing on that land until 1954."

So.... not even that.
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« Reply #36610 on: May 12, 2014, 07:16:54 pm »

I didn't have a cramp since I was a kid I believe.
Today I got one. A really bad one. Barely dragged myself home.

That's what I get for getting enthusiastic about sports.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36611 on: May 12, 2014, 09:48:40 pm »

Mom-logic is best logic.

"This is worse for me than it is for you. Therefore, I will continue making the decision to force you to let me do it."

Also, is there a reason you can't do it yourself, so you don't have to deal with her doing it?
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« Reply #36612 on: May 12, 2014, 09:50:42 pm »

Are these ones you can't deal with yourself?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36613 on: May 12, 2014, 10:10:58 pm »

Also she's doing harm to you. You really shouldn't pop them if anything resembling "tearing" the skin is going on.

Also also be sure to sanitize them after popping, if you must/are forced to. Rubbing alcohol works just fine. Otherwise, there's a good chance of it scabbing over and more puss building underneath the scab.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Love = War Edition
« Reply #36614 on: May 12, 2014, 10:49:51 pm »

The word "this" or "these" in "news" article titles makes me so freaking angry.
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