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Author Topic: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Trust-o-nomics Edition  (Read 3764713 times)

Skyrunner

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35025 on: April 14, 2014, 10:00:57 am »

I emailed the University of Toronto. They promised a 3-5 business day reply,  but reply after 10 business days, and to top it off it's a freakin automated reply that scanned my email for keywords and pasted "relevant" text as a reply. -_- How can I tell? For one, I specified that I wanted to go to UoT in 2015, but the email says January admissions are closed in two separate paragraphs. I said I live in Korea but want to submit US scores, they reply in two paragraphs that they will accept my Korean grades and that they will accept my US test scores, nearly verbatim from the web page. Also, the paragraphs are all disjointed, with none of the transitions and unified topic that a human email would have.

edit: wait, the automatic reply says "designed to respond to general questions". Does that mean it's a glorified ARS system? Ugh.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 10:08:44 am by Skyrunner »
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35026 on: April 14, 2014, 10:12:11 am »

Who the fuck designs an automated reply system that takes 10 days to respond?
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Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35027 on: April 14, 2014, 10:17:54 am »

Who the fuck designs an automated reply system that takes 10 days to respond?
Students  :D
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35028 on: April 14, 2014, 10:20:46 am »

If... if helps any Sky, remember that they're getting likely dozens to hundreds of similar e-mails. Quite possibly per day. That's why they've got automated systems, painful as running into them may be. You'd probably need to e-mail someone specific -- usually an advisor or somethin' -- to get, well, a personal response.

Who the fuck designs an automated reply system that takes 10 days to respond?
Bugs, overload of some sort... it's not entirely uncommon for universities to be using legacy systems that might be literally a decade old. Place I'm going currently to is fairly small, but until like last year was using a system that was DOS based -- as in, built before win 3.1. Wouldn't expect it from somewhere as large as UoT, but it's known to happen.

... also what sergarr said, ha. Why spend money when you can offload the work on your students and get them to pay you for the privilege of building your software infrastructure? I mean, besides quality.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35029 on: April 14, 2014, 10:25:11 am »

They don't have advisor emails, only phone numbers at business hours when I'm asleep.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35030 on: April 14, 2014, 10:53:13 am »

They don't have advisor emails, only phone numbers at business hours when I'm asleep.
If you know a useful advisor's name (I have no idea who's useful for you) you can probably grab the relevant email from the directory, if they don't give you anything useful anywhere else. Searching for International under Job Title might work, too, although watch out for Political Science instructors and suchlike. Not too familiar with international admissions, though, or I could be a bit more helpful.

This stuff is a pain.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35031 on: April 14, 2014, 10:56:56 am »

What subject to you want to study? You could e-mail the head of that department, or the guy they have for such questions.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35032 on: April 14, 2014, 10:58:33 am »

That also is a good idea. They'll know their system better than anyone else, or more likely they'll know who to put you in touch with who knows the relevant parts of the system better than anyone else.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35033 on: April 14, 2014, 11:47:08 am »

That. Try to get in touch with the department chair.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35034 on: April 14, 2014, 02:40:11 pm »

Riding the bus, a couple with a baby come on board. The parents reek of weed. You seriously have to do that shit by your toddler?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35035 on: April 14, 2014, 02:44:31 pm »

Riding the bus, a couple with a baby come on board. The parents reek of weed. You seriously have to do that shit by your toddler?

Maybe they used weed to keep the baby calm?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35036 on: April 14, 2014, 02:56:05 pm »

Riding the bus, a couple with a baby come on board. The parents reek of weed. You seriously have to do that shit by your toddler?

Maybe they used weed to keep the baby calm?
Which would piss me off even more.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35037 on: April 14, 2014, 03:33:50 pm »

Riding the bus, a couple with a baby come on board. The parents reek of weed. You seriously have to do that shit by your toddler?
Maybe they used weed to keep the baby calm?
That causes brain damage >_>

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35038 on: April 14, 2014, 03:35:46 pm »

Riding the bus, a couple with a baby come on board. The parents reek of weed. You seriously have to do that shit by your toddler?
Maybe they used weed to keep the baby calm?
That causes brain damage >_>

Can you please bold the part where the words 'clearly sensible and caring parents' appeared?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35039 on: April 14, 2014, 03:43:00 pm »

Riding the bus, a couple ascended the stairs to the chorus of ancient Greek singers. They strode forward with the confidence that they carried the hope of future, a baby held between them. Innocent and eager to live, driven by the basic philosophies of childhood, I reflected that this was clearly human nature distilled and perfected. But then I realized - the parents reeked of weed. You seriously have to do that shit by your toddler? Fukkin' bellends.
Maybe they used weed to keep the baby calm?
That causes brain damage >_>
Can you please bold the part where the words 'clearly sensible and caring parents' appeared?
Point taken.
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