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[nenjin]

And yeah, the connection is reasonably fast but nonetheless it takes ridiculously long and inhibits other computer usage. Therefore annoyance

Ok, if your connection is "fast" and yet it takes "ridiculously long", what you're complaining about is the speed of broadband or whatever you use. Also, what other "computer usage" does Steam interfere with, other than making Youtube videos slower because you're maxing out your connection speed?

I mean, seriously. Downloading 12 gigs worth of data is downloading 12 gigs worth of data, whether you're doing it through Steam or not. It takes time, and blaming Steam for that is seeking a scapegoat.

[Jerick]

The US and the EU are theoretically 2 votes. In practice....

Errr the US and EU are theoretically 28 votes.
The EU isn't just one nation afterall.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I hadn't thought of that, MSH.
So, US/EU/Australia vs Russia/China, then? That could be an interesting clash of influence...

Probably US/EU/Commonwealth and allies vs. Russia/China/Arab states and allies. The part that makes me hopeful is that the former have genuinely aligned goals while the latter is an unholy alliance coming together only to oppose the former. Not hard to determine which side will work better together.

I wish I had a list of the nations in attendance so I could make a projection on the vote. It's not that hard to guess, really.

[ChairmanPoo]

Actually, what annoys me  is steam's lack of a throttle, which means that I have to use third party programs to regulate net usage, and the fact that most of my stuff is in my other OS.  Which means that my computer is locked for the time being. And that my netbook's net usage is affected as a reflectiom


That aside I'm inherently not fond of steam for it's DRM policies and quasi-monopoly, but thats not an active worry - I've never purchased anything there nor do I intend to. All I have there are some games that a friend gifted me (inc. Shogun 2), and stuff from Humble Bundles(of which I have other versions, of course), but I'm beggining to get bored with the install times so chances are I'll end up playing little of them.


And btw, I'll complain however much I like about Steam, Shogun 2 or anything else. Since this is, y'know, the Rage thread.

[bluejello]

yea, lack of throttle for downloads is my main complaint for steam, and any other program that downloads, only one that I have found so far that has throttling is torrent programs.

[nenjin]

And btw, I'll complain however much I like about Steam, Shogun 2 or anything else. Since this is, y'know, the Rage thread.

Feel free. I just like it when the bitching is qualified.

[Frumple]

Whoever decided it was a good idea to market formal wear that's thin enough to require an undershirt to avoid violating public decency laws in fucking Florida needs to be dragged out into the road and shot until their composite parts occupy no less than twelve states.

The pants weren't too bad, though. I know I can stand khakis now. Fairly comfortable, really. Undershirts, though? Next person that tries to get me into a shirt than needs one of those bastards are getting punched unless it's at-minimum three hundred miles north of this hellswamp. Eighty fucking Fahrenheit on the first of goddamn december. I'd say this state could go to hell but apparently it's already there!

vvvv
While. Let him, her, or it die as the rest of us suffer.

[Aklyon]

While or while not wearing the indecent formalwear?

[Kadzar]

yea, lack of throttle for downloads is my main complaint for steam, and any other program that downloads, only one that I have found so far that has throttling is torrent programs.

One of the amusing things about Anarchy Online is that the official website directs you to download the client through a torrent, for which you can use any torrenting program you want. Though as old as it is, I think that may be more for hosting than the filesize requirements.

[Aklyon]

Torrents are a quicker download in general for anything over 1 or 2 gb, as long as they aren't dead or nearly so.

[Frumple]

That... depends heavily on a lot of things

Well seeded torrents often are, though, yeah. Often. Depends on your own connection. I only use torrents when I feel like being nice about someone else's bandwidth, really. Or torrents are the only place to get stuff at. If it's a solid FTP connection or whatev', it's almost always quicker off my line.

[ChairmanPoo]

Torrents are a quicker download in general for anything over 1 or 2 gb, as long as they aren't dead or nearly so.

Indeed. One of the things that irked me was that I'm pretty sure I'd have finished the download over the first day (which I spent sleeping anyway) if I had just grabbed a torrent.

[Facekillz058]

Why do I keep watching these stupid fucking Pawn shop shows.
Like, oh my god, the people that go in that place are idiots.
"Hur, I found this baseball card, i'm going to ask $5000 for it even when I have no idea if its worth anything."
"Hur, I invested in a bunch of silver 20 years ago, i'm going to bring it to someone who will pay me half of what I could get at a person who DEALS IN THAT SORT OF THING SPECIFICALLY."
"Hur, hey, hey, check out shitty 1999 Ford... Whatever, i'll sell it to you for $50,000."

[Flying Dice]

Why do I keep watching these stupid fucking Pawn shop shows.
Like, oh my god, the people that go in that place are idiots.
"Hur, I found this baseball card, i'm going to ask $5000 for it even when I have no idea if its worth anything."
"Hur, I invested in a bunch of silver 20 years ago, i'm going to bring it to someone who will pay me half of what I could get at a person who DEALS IN THAT SORT OF THING SPECIFICALLY."
"Hur, hey, hey, check out shitty 1999 Ford... Whatever, i'll sell it to you for $50,000."

That doesn't bother me as much as when someone brings in something and this happens:

Pawn Shop Guys: "Let's call a buddy of ours an expert to appraise this."
...
Appraiser: "It's worth about $20,000 on today's market."
Owner: "Okay, so I was only looking for a few grand. $12,000 sounds fair to me."
PSG: "$500."

[Scelly9]

Why do I keep watching these stupid fucking Pawn shop shows.
Like, oh my god, the people that go in that place are idiots.
"Hur, I found this baseball card, i'm going to ask $5000 for it even when I have no idea if its worth anything."
"Hur, I invested in a bunch of silver 20 years ago, i'm going to bring it to someone who will pay me half of what I could get at a person who DEALS IN THAT SORT OF THING SPECIFICALLY."
"Hur, hey, hey, check out shitty 1999 Ford... Whatever, i'll sell it to you for $50,000."

That doesn't bother me as much as when someone brings in something and this happens:

Pawn Shop Guys: "Let's call a buddy of ours an expert to appraise this."
...
Appraiser: "It's worth about $20,000 on today's market."
Owner: "Okay, so I was only looking for a few grand. $12,000 sounds fair to me."
PSG: "$500."

And then the dumbass takes it.