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yes, montage me

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Ok, montage them

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i really would rather not montage one week

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Total Members Voted: 6

[Cheddarius]

You mean a rickshaw?

I propose that Riversand, Adwarf, and Nirur Torir go out to greet the newcomers, but be ready to go back to the fortress if they are just a diversion to draw out the warriors.

[IronyOwl]

And here I was thinking we'd just open the gates and let them in.

I'm either not nearly as paranoid or far more gullible than you guys.

[Nirur Torir]

You mean a rickshaw?

I propose that Riversand, Adwarf, and Nirur Torir go out to greet the newcomers, but be ready to go back to the fortress if they are just a diversion to draw out the warriors.

Agreed.

[Hastur]

Sneak Peak

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Behind the Scenes:
Crafting: To craft something you must roll under you skill level. 3d6 are rolled, creating a bell curve around the number 10. Default Skill level is 9. You must roll under your skill level to succeed

Determining Skill level. Your skill level is 9 default +1 for every skillpoint you have, +2 for every attribute rankup in the relevant attribute. Adding these all up gives you your skill level.

Modifying Skill Level: Situational modifiers can make a task easier or harder. For example doing a task with no tools is a minus. being distracted is a minus, having an assistant is a bonus, a fine workshop is a bonus,

Determining Results: The guideline is one hour of labor is worth 10$ worth of value of goods. Otherwise, make something up. A chair is worth 40$ so it takes 4 hours to make, a club is worth 20$ so it takes 2 hours to make a good one. An Iron breastplate is worth 400$ so it takes a lot more work. A spear is 40$ but a sword could be 500$ If you beat you skill level roll by 5 you get a 50% bonus in output, either in goods if you focused on quantity or in value if you focused on quality. If you beat your skill level by 10 you get a 100% bonus to output. Furthermore, a Fine version of something costs x5 as much and a Very Fine/exeptional/whatever costs x20. A fine item gives a +1 and a Veryfine gives a +2 to something (subject to future patching).

What this means is that you can try to make something really good by devoting lots of time to it from the beginining, with the goal in mind, attempting something grand may give a penalty to your skill.

Example Modifiers:
Distractions: room is on fire -4, you are on fire-8, wherewolfs howling outside door-2
Workshop: -4 no workshop, Suitable rock bench -0, Flat Block+1, Custom furniture laden stocked workshop+2
Assistants: Untrained Obedient +1, Trained Obedient+2, Teacher+3
Tools: No tools-5, Improvised tools-4, Limited tools (just a hammer) -3, Innappropriate tools(rock crafted metalsmith tools) -2. Incomplete Toolset -1. Full Toolset-0, Fine Toolset+1, Exeptional Toolset+2
Extra time: Work x2 slower +1, x4 gives a +2, x8 gives +3, x16 gives+4

Most other task resolution mechanics are based off of this or are very similar.

[Cheddarius]

Oooooooooooooooooooooo...

Do we get experience for doing stuff? It seems incongruous that normally doing things doesn't help you level up, but whenever there's a montage, you level up in something of your choice. I'd rather have no level ups during montages, but normal leveling all the time.

[IronyOwl]

Interesting.

[IronyOwl]

Actually, 3d6 averages to 10.5.

But anyway, I have questions:

What skill is used to create toolsets? Metalcrafting?

How does one get a workshop good enough to grant a bonus? I'd assume it's not just having really good tools, since that's a separate thing.

Are Fine and Very Fine items produced by saying that's what you want to make, and then it's just like normal items but they're more expensive and so take longer?

Is my glass medical set Fine/Very Fine, or just normal but very expensive?

[Riversand]

Okay, Hastur, the outer doorway had 1 of 2 doors already, so that is a minor incorrect issue.

[Hastur]

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Riversand: yeah but now its all linked up and everything. Oh and its only bolded to attract my attention once i do inventory so i dont miss it.

Irony: yeah my bad 10.5 is nowhere near around number 10. ideally metalcrafting crafting is the skill used to make tools out of metal. Some stonecrafting has been used before in the fort, but i mean, if you have very fine stone-made tools then its like having metal tools so its all good. You can get a good workshop by using a block and putting a seat in it. You can get a supafly workshop by having a designated room with a door a block or table, a chair and drawers or chairs in there too. So like a variety of furniture that adds up to 7. 2 tables 2 cabinets a door a chair a block. Next is "are very fine and very fine ..." the answer is yes, but they are also made at a penalty to skill, so it is riskier in addition to taking longer. HOWEVER. If you jsut happen to beat you skill roll by 20, and i cannot justify you having made 4 of the item instead or something, you might get a veryfine item. Next The glass medical set is jsut normal but expensive, and to be honest i forgot why, it might have been because it is made of glass, or because it is good for both medical and surgery skills, or something.

Cheddarius, You guys were supposed to level you skill one level every X hours that are devoted to working it. It was like 400 hours or something (depending how intense the training is or if you have learner or student or high intelect). However that did not last long because it was a lot of work for a low amount of return. So what i am doing now is that it would take 2 weeks to do 200 hours on a double shift schedule so i just accelerated everything to the most benefit of the doubt in favor of you guys and let you guys pick you own skill every about 2 weeks and blah blah What i shoulda said is that i just decide everything by drinking tea and consulting the stars.

There you see everything is fine DO NOT LOOK AT THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN

[adwarf]

I shall grab a shovel and spend 16 hours digging trenches along the walls then 8 hours taking the wood i gathered and turning into stakes to put in trench ( At least i am not destroying the fort but i think we should get a bridge built at the gate )

[Cheddarius]

Well, we still need someone to patrol...

[adwarf]

I know but if a bunch of goblins pop up and siege us ( when will this happen i want to shoot goblins in face while screaming armos have the monkeys take them ) we are dead with no gate or anything to keep them from scaling the wall

[Cheddarius]

I don't think that will happen, that would be ludicrously overpowered.

[Riversand]

I know but if a bunch of goblins pop up and siege us ( when will this happen i want to shoot goblins in face while screaming armos have the monkeys take them ) we are dead with no gate or anything to keep them from scaling the wall

i just built some heavy outer doors, so we have that. the walls, can be fairly defended, and we will develop them further as time goes.

[adwarf]

ok then i shall patrol 8 hours dig the trenches 8 hours and sharpen sticks for 8 hours ( While thinking vividly of the joy of a goblin siege and the insuing goblin massacre )