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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #75 on: May 21, 2010, 01:33:15 pm »

Until the bloom and consume all the oxygen in the upper pacific.
They wouldn't be able to take anymore than the amount of oxygen used if we just burned all the plastic, the bacteria just save on labor costs.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #76 on: May 21, 2010, 02:03:11 pm »

I'm pretty sure that life-as-we-know-it is already trying to annihilate almost every other lifeform in existence. Our puny attempts at super-life vs many billions of years of evolution of microbes who fight for their existence every second is going to fail miserably.

So no, no superdiseases or grey goo for a long while.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.... FOR SCIENCE!  :D
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #77 on: May 21, 2010, 02:26:07 pm »

At the moment it would probably only work for single celled organisms but in the future its possible.
Yes, somewhere in the future. Just a few thousand years, I'm sure.
Seems like creating a new pigment would be easy it you can transcribe a protein strand from scratch.
They aren't inventing new proteins, they are duplicating existing ones.
The technology to simulate this already exists and is used to test drugs for side effects.
Oh, that explains why side effects no longer exist.
 
You greatly underestimate the complexity of the task here. We're talking about the permutations of every possible combination of molecules in an organism. Three molecules may be harmless when any two are taken together but may form something toxic when the three meet.
 
Besides, no simulation is perfect, and our understanding of physics is far from complete. I don't expect a simulation to be significantly more accurate than a wild guess, even a thousand years in the future.
Actually the formation of nerve and blood vessels is automatic, seed cells are scatted through body tissue
and use chemical signals to find and connect to similar cells.
I'll give you that. But the point still stands that the creation of gene templates for entire limbs is outright fantasy.
Because our knowledge of biology will never improve and computers will never be faster than they are now?
They certainly will improve over time. But it's still a long way to go before we can do this more efficiently than selective breeding.
 
 
PS: They currently make blue roses by watering them with dye.
 
PPS: Oxygen in the WATER, IN THE WATER. Like the way that BG alge already blooms in nutrient-rich outflow from rivers, drowning everything else?
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #78 on: May 21, 2010, 03:01:45 pm »

PS: Yeah and they're ugly.

PPS: Yep. Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone!
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #79 on: May 21, 2010, 03:18:58 pm »

Seems like creating a new pigment would be easy it you can transcribe a protein strand from scratch.
They aren't inventing new proteins, they are duplicating existing ones.
Yes but this system has the ability to create complete original protein sequences. You have to figure out how to stick a rock on the end of a stick and make sure its stuck good before you can give saber tooth tigers a face full of hammer.

The way I see its like the difference between a chisel and a CNC wood router and I feel applying computer aided design can revolutionize bioengineering the same way its revolutionized every aspect of  regular engineering.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #80 on: May 21, 2010, 03:36:34 pm »

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These synthetic cells sound promising.200 years from now,you lose a limb,or a kidney,pop a  shot of replication and regeneration cells and your good as new in a few months.(side effects may include super-cancer)
Fixed, though technically there are more promising avenues towards organ replacement than synthetic cells, and within a decade I expect pretty fancy cybernetic replacement limbs (essentially more sophisticated versions of the already extremely impressive shit we have today).
*shakes fist feverously, muttering to himself*
"Yes, there is still hope for us bioengineers, damn DNK-messing whitecoats..."

On a serious note, I am quite eagrly awaiting how will this impact any future scientific exploitations of biochemistry(is this the right definition?).

But maybe everything will quiet down and disapper into the darkness, never to be heard again.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #81 on: May 21, 2010, 04:00:39 pm »

PS: They currently make blue roses by watering them with dye.

Actually thats not what wikipedia says. I remember reading about it several years ago.

PS: We can also make roses glow in the fucking dark... I want these flowers.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 04:06:11 pm by HideousBeing »
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #82 on: May 21, 2010, 04:18:04 pm »

OK, you win. I was totally wrong about the roses.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #83 on: May 21, 2010, 08:23:27 pm »

He was totally wrong about the roses.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #84 on: May 21, 2010, 10:41:56 pm »

He was totally wrong about the roses.

Derp...
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #85 on: May 21, 2010, 10:50:51 pm »

Genetic code is surprisingly flexible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVdLJ78RBWk
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #86 on: May 21, 2010, 11:12:27 pm »

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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #87 on: May 22, 2010, 12:42:06 am »

Genetic code is surprisingly flexible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVdLJ78RBWk

Bioligists like to put their talents to good use. Wouldn't the world be soooo much better if everything could glow in the dark? FOR SCIENCE!
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