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Author Topic: Venter creates first synthethic cell  (Read 4143 times)

Sir Pseudonymous

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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2010, 11:54:52 pm »

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the mist
Decent movie.shitty ending.

The funniest thing I've heard all day was from the article.
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Ethics experts
some of these People remind me of peasants in the dark ages.A huge breakthrough in science occurs,one that in the long run may rival things like the telephone,and all they can do is argue about it's morality and ethics.If they critique it,they do so without any fundamental understanding of it.

Not talking about anyone here,or particularly this discovery,but recent scientific breakthroughs in general.
Yeah. Fuck anti-technological assholes. >:O

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These synthetic cells sound promising.200 years from now,you lose a limb,or a kidney,pop a  shot of replication and regeneration cells and your good as new in a few months.(side effects may include super-cancer)
Fixed, though technically there are more promising avenues towards organ replacement than synthetic cells, and within a decade I expect pretty fancy cybernetic replacement limbs (essentially more sophisticated versions of the already extremely impressive shit we have today).

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This is also horrible.Planet's overpopulated as is.Anything that increases an individuals natural lifespan at the current rate of growth is a detriment to the well being of the future.But hey,if we make cells that can just grow food and oil like some sort of living tumors,guess that's not a problem.
No, it's not. The problem is it's not being utilized properly, with much of the most fertile landmass going unused. Technology also improves the capacity to produce food and clean water...

The idea of "everyone should die so that people who don't exist yet can live more comfortably" also happens to be one of the most sickeningly sociopathic sentiments I've ever seen. When medical technology gets to the point where humans don't die of natural causes, and should population growth still be a problem, the solution isn't "don't let people live past a given age", it's "mandate fucking birth control".
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2010, 11:59:54 pm »

Or build colony ships...
Also: http://www.physorg.com/news8960.html
"The professor estimates that mass organ printing could be common within the next ten, or maybe even five, years."
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2010, 12:04:23 am »

these synthethic cells arent really meant for medical purposes They are pretty much man-assembled bacteria.

I'm not too sure that they should be patentable, any more than hand assembling a virus from scratch (which has been doable for a while) was. The particular procedure might be, though.

« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 12:07:54 am by ChairmanPoo »
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2010, 12:14:59 am »

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Synthetic Genomics Inc., a company founded by Dr. Venter, provided $30 million to fund the experiments and owns the intellectual-property rights to the cell-creation techniques.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2010, 12:15:54 am »

This breakthrough is amazing.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2010, 12:29:37 am »

Or build colony ships...
Also: http://www.physorg.com/news8960.html
"The professor estimates that mass organ printing could be common within the next ten, or maybe even five, years."
Yes, that's precisely what I was thinking of (although I leave open the possibility that someone else will manage to produce replacement organs some other way). I saw something about that on a documentary last year or whenever (possibly a few years ago, I haven't watched much TV in the past couple of years).

Edit: The organ printing, that is. Space colonization can't solve population issues (unless you arrest population growth first, I suppose, in which case it would be more of just dispersing enough so that everyone got their own planet...), and in fact would create far more problems. However, it is an ultimate necessity, disseminating humanity throughout the galaxy, hopefully running across some primitive sentient aliens we can torture for shits and giggles... >:3
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2010, 12:38:45 am »

these synthethic cells arent really meant for medical purposes They are pretty much man-assembled bacteria.

But if we can assemble a life form using a generic cell and computer code even if the code if copied its not that big a leap to assembling any sort of organic construct.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2010, 01:14:56 am »


Yes, that's precisely what I was thinking of (although I leave open the possibility that someone else will manage to produce replacement organs some other way)

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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2010, 01:56:52 am »

So, were their names made entirely of G T A and C?  Because otherwise, you'd be pretty hard pressed to write anything except references to obtuse sci-fi movies.

Exactly... I can't imagine it being easier to spell vester without v,e and s
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2010, 01:58:58 am »

Exactly... I can't imagine it being easier to spell vester without v,e and s
No, that's where the n comes in.

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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2010, 02:45:13 am »

Exactly... I can't imagine it being easier to spell vester without v,e and s
No, that's where the n comes in.

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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2010, 02:56:13 am »

"Hey, we did something that some people think is sacred. Let us mock them!" bit.
That was not my intention, and I apologise if it seemed that way. I just crawled my back up from the Atheists thread, where I'm the Sole Defender Of The Faith or something, and I could use the release.

Another thing: My comment was literal, as I do believe in God. And until we can create an entire universe with the people in it who worship us, we're not "playing God" yet.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2010, 08:05:28 am »

The funniest thing I've heard all day was from the article.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2010, 08:14:37 am »

The funniest thing I've heard all day was from the article.
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Ethics experts
some of these People remind me of peasants in the dark ages.A huge breakthrough in science occurs,one that in the long run may rival things like the telephone,and all they can do is argue about it's morality and ethics.If they critique it,they do so without any fundamental understanding of it.
1. Nowhere in the article I could find something about ethics experts critiqueing this.
2. Ethics have been a major part of science since the nuclear bomb. It is usually done by scientists of that field, specialised in ethics, who know their shit.
3. Every major breakthrough is screened on ethics. Scientists are humans, too. None (well, most, they're still human) of them wants to have the death of even one man on their conscience.

You remind me of people in the dark ages. Someone sais a word you think you know, and you already have an opinion even though you know jack merde about what you're talking about. The whole "Science is awesome yeah and everyone who doesn't think so sucks yeah!" attitude is pretty fundamentalist and backwards.
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Re: Venter creates first synthethic cell
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2010, 08:26:43 am »

The funniest thing I've heard all day was from the article.
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Ethics experts
It's okay, a committee of ethics experts has absolved you of all guilt.
I hear that one line and suddenly I am itching to emancipate something.
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