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Author Topic: [0.34.11v01] Phoebus' Graphic Set (0.34.11's one year anniversary update)  (Read 979174 times)

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Re: [0.31.25v03] Phoebus' Graphic Set (New Square Wall Alt Tileset)
« Reply #855 on: April 04, 2011, 01:06:43 am »

I'm giving a try to a new style of wall transitions (walls that end near rough stone): (edit version to the right)

Too bad we can't use them for wall-ending pillars. :(

Zoomed X2: (edit version to the right)


The only difference I can see is a slight thickness increase on the corner walls center line. Argh my brain hurts after trying to spot any difference, like a nasty spot the difference picture set where you cant find any differences.
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Seconded.  They look exactly the same to me.  I suspect Phoebus accidentally pasted the image twice
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Re: [0.31.25v03] Phoebus' Graphic Set (New Square Wall Alt Tileset)
« Reply #857 on: April 04, 2011, 01:56:48 am »

I'm giving a try to a new style of wall transitions (walls that end near rough stone): (edit version to the right)

Too bad we can't use them for wall-ending pillars. :(

Zoomed X2: (edit version to the right)


The only difference I can see is a slight thickness increase on the corner walls center line. Argh my brain hurts after trying to spot any difference, like a nasty spot the difference picture set where you cant find any differences.
Both differences are (very) subtle, the second difference is in the very thin walls that connects the walls and the pillars, near the top it's ~0.5 pixel thicker in the right picture, very hard to see thanks to the anti-aliasing.
In retrospect, I was OCDing fiercely when I did that change.

Talking of which, I really would like if Toady added this feature:
In d_init.txt:
[WALL_TRANSITION:?] controls which tile is drawn when a wall section is only adjacent to one other wall section.

[WALL_TRANSITION:ON]
Works as it does right now. Pillar tile by default, with one of 8 wall transitions to rough walls when applicable.

[WALL_TRANSITION:PILLAR] (or 'OFF')
Walls always end using the pillar tile. Frees 8 tiles.

[WALL_TRANSITION:WALL]
Ignores rough walls. Selected tile is only dependent on the direction of the adjacent wall.
If the adjacent wall is to the south, it's tile 183. West: 184. North: 189. East: 190.
Frees 4 tiles. Never uses the pillar tile as a wall ender. Looks much nicer.

*dreamy eyes*
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 02:11:07 am by Phoebus »
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Are the "fine quality" symbol and the "floor" symbol inseperable? The new floors are nice, but I like the + sign for quality more than I like the floor for quality.

I don't know if this is because of the init file (above) or not.

And underground plants were already identifiable by color alone :P
Yes, both smoothed/engraved floor tiles and the fine quality symbol are hardcoded, as are most things in the game beside creatures, minerals & plants.

Okay, would you kindly direct me in how to change the floors back to the + symbol then?
You'll need a image editor with alpha transparency support (like GIMP).
Grab an old tileset, copy the new tiles over.
Recently changed tiles: 0 (chasm), 1&2 (dead dorfs), 18 (berry bush), 28&29 (small shrooms), 32 (space/sky), 126&141 (sand tiles), 151,152&154 (dead goblin, elf & kobold), 181&198 (sideway stools), 238 (pot), 247 (sand tile again), 248 (eggs), 250 (low sky), 252 (long grass), 253 (severed body parts), 255 (dead trees)
I think that's it.

Or you could just copy the only floor over to the new tileset, but remember that many other tiles use the new smooth floor as their background.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 06:55:28 am by Phoebus »
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I was wondering if these are the final (or at least for the next several updates) models for all remains since I liked the previous version much more in terms of being able to differentiate vermin remains from useful remains that could be used for crafts, also blue shells seems really weird.
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Are the "fine quality" symbol and the "floor" symbol inseperable? The new floors are nice, but I like the + sign for quality more than I like the floor for quality.

I don't know if this is because of the init file (above) or not.

And underground plants were already identifiable by color alone :P
Yes, both smoothed/engraved floor tiles and the fine quality symbol are hardcoded, as are most things in the game beside creatures, minerals & plants.

Okay, would you kindly direct me in how to change the floors back to the + symbol then?
You'll need a image editor with alpha transparency support (like GIMP).
Grab an old tileset, copy the new tiles over.
Recently changed tiles: 0 (chasm), 1&2 (dead dorfs), 18 (berry bush), 28&29 (small shrooms), 32 (space/sky), 126&141 (sand tiles), 151,152&154 (dead goblin, elf & kobold), 181&198 (sideway stools), 238 (pot), 247 (sand tile again), 248 (eggs), 250 (low sky), 252 (long grass), 253 (severed body parts), 255 (dead trees)
I think that's it.

Or you could just copy the only floor over to the new tileset, but remember that many other tiles use the new smooth floor as their background.

Right. But my problem is I can't find where the floor tiles are in the first place. You appear to have left it out of your numbered list above.
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krenshala

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Right. But my problem is I can't find where the floor tiles are in the first place. You appear to have left it out of your numbered list above.
In this thread, first post on page 56 has the tiles.  You can see the + used for the floor about a third of the way in from the right edge, 2nd or 3rd row down from the top.  It looks like it is on a grey diamond on a black background.  That is the old floor tile.
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Right. But my problem is I can't find where the floor tiles are in the first place. You appear to have left it out of your numbered list above.
In this thread, first post on page 56 has the tiles.  You can see the + used for the floor about a third of the way in from the right edge, 2nd or 3rd row down from the top.  It looks like it is on a grey diamond on a black background.  That is the old floor tile.

Aha. Thanks. Here's the modified set if anyone else wants the old floors back:

« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 06:51:34 pm by veok »
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seanb

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hey guys, what's the difference between the "preinstalled package" and the "lazy newb pack"?
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veok

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The Lazy Newb pack has other programs with it -- DFHack and Therapist at least, while the preinstalled Phoebus graphics are just the DF game.
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I was wondering if these are the final (or at least for the next several updates) models for all remains since I liked the previous version much more in terms of being able to differentiate vermin remains from useful remains that could be used for crafts, also blue shells seems really weird.
Here's the latest tileset with the bones tile replaced with the old version. Rename and place at the correct location: "/data/art/"

About the shells, I don't think it's possible to change their color, at least I don't know how. Maybe mussel shells just are blue.

And here's a version with the new bones, but transformed to greyscale (no red bits.)


On this subject, which version of the bones does everyone prefer? (old) Bones 'n Skull, (new) Bones 'n Blood, or (greyscaled) Just Bones?
Unless someone changes my mind, I'm going for the greyscaled 'Just Bones' look new update.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 10:27:12 pm by Phoebus »
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nucleus222

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Keep up the good work. this pack is amazing
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About the shells, I don't think it's possible to change their color, at least I don't know how. Maybe mussel shells just are blue.


Mussel shells can indeed be blue, as displayed by Wikipedia.

EDIT: That made me think of tyrian purple. Would be nice to have in the game.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 03:31:51 am by Raging Mouse »
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Phoebus

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I've made new barrels! :P


Anything about the new ones (right) you don't like?

Keep up the good work. this pack is amazing
Thanks. <3


About the shells, I don't think it's possible to change their color, at least I don't know how. Maybe mussel shells just are blue.


Mussel shells can indeed be blue, as displayed by Wikipedia.

EDIT: That made me think of tyrian purple. Would be nice to have in the game.
Thank you for confirming.

About Tyrian Purple, I can't really replace the current magenta with that, as it's used for gems and a few plants.
But creature tilesets could use that color, for admins for example, thanks for the suggestion.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 05:09:14 am by Phoebus »
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Dohon

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Perhaps brighten them up just a tad? The barrels, that is. Might be my laptop, but they look a bit dark. Other than that, they look seksi.
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