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Author Topic: Paranormal Mafa - Round 16 - Game Over!  (Read 58959 times)

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« Reply #195 on: May 20, 2010, 10:09:01 pm »

It is a addition to the attack and a direct statement to you that I am unhappy and wish you to get lynched. Also that you are not helping.
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« Reply #196 on: May 20, 2010, 10:12:59 pm »

So many fightin' words... and you're real desperate to get the last word in there too, aren'tcha? I've explained this at the start of every game, and I'm getting tired of having to do it over and over again. The method is sound, and you're blowing it out of proportion as though I had lied, and are trying your damnedest to spin EVERYTHING as scummy. Do you recall the thing I did, which you are accusing me on the basis of?

I placed a second vote on Criptfeind, got some magnificently telling responses out of Ottofar, forsaken1111, and Diabolus/Nuke. After that, I dropped the vote and began actual hunting. Woop-de-friggin'-do. Best stop the day and lynch me now, because is that not the scummiest thing ever?

...No. In fact, you've stopped looking for scum, and are tunneling on me at this point, Mr. Vulpix. You've had nothing new to add or say in the last 2 pages of tunneling, and are being of no use to the town. Do you have anything productive or new to add to the discussion here? Or questions for anyone but me? Because for all your talk about effective tactics, you're doing nothing to help town find scum.

If you are still confused, I'd advise you reread the Start of Day 1, back when you acknowledged what I was doing, and back when pushing a lynch on me would have made no sense. You seem to have forgotten that once I got enough random votes, though.

I see you've finally caught on that I'm serious. Either that, or you're taking offense that I'm attacking your idiotic play style rather than you. Maybe it's both.

Your method is not sound, it's RETARDED! I just went over this. It might catch scum, but you wanna know what works better? Going out and FINDING THE LITTLE FUCKERS! You can't seem to accept the fact that acting scummy and seeing who votes you (townies and good scum) is a less effective scumhunting way than getting reactions and voting who has scummy reactions (scum and bad townies). I cannot be alone in this. I know some of the rest of you have opinions on umm... Reverse Scumhunting. It's reverse because you're doing it ASS-BACKWARDS. You're trying to get the scum to come to you. Wanna know the flaw of this plan? The scum can just lurk and win, and you'll never be the wiser because you'll be stuck tangling with the townie that decided you were scum.

It isn't what you've done, it's the method you're claiming to scumhunt by. Let's act scummy! Derp derp! This won't backfire, how could it? Herp derp!

I'm tunnelling you, yes. That doesn't make my argument any less true, but if you think I'm scum, come out and accuse me of it, Captain Passive. Actually, this is a thinly veiled method to try and get me to forget about you. Sorry, I'm not going to roll that way. And sure I'm helping the town find scum, I'm convincing them you're scum.

You're the one that's confused. As soon as I noticed what bullshit you were spouting (Let's act scummy!) I attacked you for it. The fact I was already voting you only sweetened the deal. You're underestimating me, btw. When I started voting you, you already had two votes and RVS was over. I'm 100% sure I would push somebody (you, probably, considering your plan was to literally get people to attack you). It's not ideal, but if I wasn't pushing somebody, I would be asking some really easy questions until somebody says some bullshit I call them on. Like you.

Or Webadict.

That's stupid and a stretch: One, if I were scum, I'd be more aggressive on the people allowing me to say "End the Day." Two, if I were going to save anyone from being lynched, it'd be at a time when I could do that, such as the end of the Day or by, you know, finding scum. Three, I'm not sure what you're freaking out about, but you need to cut it out. Four, I'd never save Solifuge even if he were my scummate because I'm pretty sure he's fine without my help, and if he's not, he was doing a poor job and deserved to die. Mostly because saving a scummate that's already sticking his head in a noose is basically like saying, "Any room for two?"

Webadict, you know better than to spread WIFOM like that. Yes, most of your points are true, but they're also irrelevant now. And anyways, most of these are passive jabs or defensive, so you need to get a lot more aggressive. To everyone who thinks this is normal Webadict; it's not. Webadict is usually MUCH more aggressive. This is just crap, and if there weren't more grievous scum errors for me to be after, I'd be on Webadict like a dog.

Or Jokerman.

Unvote, you've satisfied the questions asked.

I wasn't saying that too much attacking is scum behavior, rather that your attacks didn't make much sense to me and it seemed like you were being (it seemed to me) overly town to cover your scumminess. Your explanation has countered that belief, thank you.

"He looks so much like town, he must of been scum acting like town!" Or, you know TOWN ACTING LIKE TOWN! You're too smart for this shit, Jokerman. Try again.
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« Reply #197 on: May 20, 2010, 10:19:52 pm »

It is a addition to the attack and a direct statement to you that I am unhappy and wish you to get lynched. Also that you are not helping.
So, you admit you are only trying to lynch me due to my lack of information? Is this a repeat of BMX?
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« Reply #198 on: May 20, 2010, 10:22:33 pm »

This whole game is a mess.
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« Reply #199 on: May 20, 2010, 10:23:59 pm »

This whole game is a mess.

You're a mess. Way to contribute.
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Hmm...I've never been a big fan of CCGs - I mean, I did and still do collect Pokemon cards, but I never got heavily into the battling and trading thing.

By definition that makes you a fan since you still buy them.

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« Reply #200 on: May 20, 2010, 10:25:11 pm »

It is a addition to the attack and a direct statement to you that I am unhappy and wish you to get lynched. Also that you are not helping.
So, you admit you are only trying to lynch me due to my lack of information? Is this a repeat of BMX?

Yes. No.

Nice idea bringing up a game probably no one read though. To bad I was, you know in it, so I know when you are making shit up.

By the way the answer to that first question is now no.
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« Reply #201 on: May 20, 2010, 10:27:13 pm »

It is a addition to the attack and a direct statement to you that I am unhappy and wish you to get lynched. Also that you are not helping.
So, you admit you are only trying to lynch me due to my lack of information? Is this a repeat of BMX?

Yes. No.

Nice idea bringing up a game probably no one read though. To bad I was, you know in it, so I know when you are making shit up.

By the way the answer to that first question is now no.
So, you admit to having no real reason to vote me before now then, do you not? Doesn't that make you a bit of a hypocrite, since your problem with me is that?

The only difference is I'm still collecting data, while you are merely making things up on the spot.
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« Reply #202 on: May 20, 2010, 10:31:44 pm »

Toony: Because my Ethics midterm Friday has turned me evil 'cause I thought the review session tonight was not 7-9 like last time and I thought it was but it was actually 5-7 and fuck my life forever.

How in the world do you still have midterms?  It's the end of May already!

I had a post here where I laid all my thoughts bare and ended with a sentence that included too much strike-through.. Then I accidentally hit mouse4 and lost the post. Too bad.

Type in a seperate program.  Or get Lazurus if you use Firefox.  Or come up with a better excuse if you are trying to pretend to have more content than you actually do if that's the case.

See, I was going to vote for webadict because I am a complete noob and have no idea what's going and he has a couple of votes on him already. My actual reasoning for this doesn't work at all though, now that I've actually looked at it. The idea was I'd conform to stuff to avoid drawing attention to myself, but then later I was like "hold on that's stupid."  But I was really suspecting you, Jim, because of how defensive youwere over there when Toaster made a simple joke. And all the hate. But I also forget what most people posted in between then and now. And I'm [n]to lazy[/b] to read them all again.

First one is a classic example of bandwagoning.  Scummy, especially the way you were going to do it.  Second is something scum need to do.  The only time I can think of for town to avoid attention is in a game with a single cop and you're the cop.  In a role-heavy game like Paranormal, town should not try to avoid attention.  The third is just generally a bad excuse.

I think that Webadict is scum, he just wants to lynch someone, and save Solifuge, who's also scum.

Anyhow better?

No.  Everyone does something scummy at least once a game, even when they're town.  Find out what your target has done that's scummy and push until you get a response. 

Unvote Diabolus, Vote Nuke9.13 for clarity.

Glad of you to join us! Care to explain your former self's waffly quasi-help, and friendly demeanor?

Seriously? You jumped on someone for being replaced? That's not even a reason. Combine this with your other behavior, I think you're desperately trying to deflect.

I've seen people replace in and lurk to victory.  I've seen Nuke9.13 lurk to victory.  Solifuge's pressure seems to me to be to make sure that neither of those happens.

Now I realize that I've fucked myself over horribly by jumping on what seemed like a reasonably suspicion.  Oh well. Wonder how long I'll last. I seriously have no idea what to do now. Probably just hop on the Solifuge wagon then lay down and wait to die. Yeah, that sounds good. I'm thinking today is my death. If not today, definitely tomorrow.

Solifuge

The suspicion was reasonable enough, it's how you worded it that was awful.  And scummy.  And this *really* *really* doesn't help matters.  Giving up == scummy.  Not scum hunting == scummy.  Bandwagoning == scummy (especially how you're doing it). 

Don't give up until you're dead.  Not even then if there's a Medium around.

I'd be happy to clarify, but I was under the impression it was pretty straightforward. Anywho, has JanusTwoFace yet graced us with his shining faces? Because I smell a lurker, and it smells Real bad.

Didn't expect the game to start so quickly, I really only have time for one good post in the evenings until tomorrow.  I'll post a more after that.

This whole game is a mess.

And you're lurking.  Big time.  You have less than half a dozen posts this game with little content between them.  Why?

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Reply #84 - Worthless (1 line)
Reply #154 - Almost useful comment on Mr.Person (5 lines)
Reply #191 - Half hearted attack on Criptfeind (3 lines)

Org, you're still being less than helpful.  To top it off, you're lurking more than most games I've seen you in.  You're scum.  If you're not scum, I'm still leaning towards lynching you so we don't get to the end game and have to figure out how to read your lack of posts.
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« Reply #203 on: May 20, 2010, 10:34:08 pm »

It is a addition to the attack and a direct statement to you that I am unhappy and wish you to get lynched. Also that you are not helping.
So, you admit you are only trying to lynch me due to my lack of information? Is this a repeat of BMX?

Yes. No.

Nice idea bringing up a game probably no one read though. To bad I was, you know in it, so I know when you are making shit up.

By the way the answer to that first question is now no.
So, you admit to having no real reason to vote me before now then, do you not? Doesn't that make you a bit of a hypocrite, since your problem with me is that?

The only difference is I'm still collecting data, while you are merely making things up on the spot.

I had no more reason to you other than you being so very unhelpful. So I said yes. Than I read your next sentence and now I have even more reasons to vote you. So I said that it changed to no.

Also, like most attacks from me it did not start as a try to lynch you but rather as a try to get you to say what you are thinking. The more you are unhelpful the more I want to lynch you.

The two hopeful out comes are ether:
1: You die
2: You talk

I was going to say that most of the time that does not work but than I realized that we have only done this once before and it totally worked.
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« Reply #204 on: May 20, 2010, 10:36:42 pm »

Just to be clear, Mr. Person, I believe I'm done trying to explain anything to you, so don't expect me to address anything unless you've suddenly decided to actually read what people say, or to present anything new to the table. You've kicked reason to the curb ...and then you curb-stomped it.

And now its dead. Good job.



I don't see anything unusual coming from Webadict. He's baiting folks hard though, and it's funny to watch.



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« Reply #205 on: May 20, 2010, 10:42:23 pm »

Because my Ethics midterm Friday has turned me evil 'cause I thought the review session tonight was not 7-9 like last time and I thought it was but it was actually 5-7 and fuck my life forever.

Remember that?

Yeah.

I had to go learn two weeks of material in two nights 'cause I missed that session.

I'm fucking exhausted and I can't even pick out obvscum because the nublets are throwing everything off with their singularity-like levels of scuminess.
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« Reply #206 on: May 20, 2010, 11:16:25 pm »

It is a addition to the attack and a direct statement to you that I am unhappy and wish you to get lynched. Also that you are not helping.
So, you admit you are only trying to lynch me due to my lack of information? Is this a repeat of BMX?

Yes. No.

Nice idea bringing up a game probably no one read though. To bad I was, you know in it, so I know when you are making shit up.

By the way the answer to that first question is now no.
So, you admit to having no real reason to vote me before now then, do you not? Doesn't that make you a bit of a hypocrite, since your problem with me is that?

The only difference is I'm still collecting data, while you are merely making things up on the spot.

I had no more reason to you other than you being so very unhelpful. So I said yes. Than I read your next sentence and now I have even more reasons to vote you. So I said that it changed to no.

Also, like most attacks from me it did not start as a try to lynch you but rather as a try to get you to say what you are thinking. The more you are unhelpful the more I want to lynch you.

The two hopeful out comes are ether:
1: You die
2: You talk

I was going to say that most of the time that does not work but than I realized that we have only done this once before and it totally worked.
Okay, let's TALK then...

Let's see... I'm gonna just deconstruct you for now, since I'm having a heck of a time keeping track of everyone while cleaning.

Basically, you're all like "Hey, WUBA is always WUBA." You play it cool in this post:
End the Day.

Now? It's a three-way tie between Cript, Ottofar, and Solifuge right now by my count.

Why do you want the day to end in a no-lynch, Web?
Why are you freaking out? Aren't you just adding to the tie you wish to acknowledge but not stop?

I'm now watching you.

A no lynch is not really good for the town. I don't want the day to end in a no-lynch. And I know I am adding to the tie. I am not getting any real anti-town read out of them to want to lynch them. But you try to end the day early with a no-lynch has caused me to suspect you over them.

Quite honestly do you think he expects no one more to vote? Really?

Seemingly, you're even defending my actions while also berating me for them here:
Well I should withhold judgment until Otto responds, but no, Web is wrong here. Otto is a newbie and always looks a bit like scum. I think it is extraneous to lynch him for one comment that was bad but more newbie than scum.

And here:
Ottofar.

End the Day.

That is a little harsh.

It's like you're playing both side of the field at once. The fact that the defense comes later is odd. And it's not a paradigm shift until I vote forsaken1111, where YOU ask for reasons. That's not something you should be worrying about. No that's something forsaken and I are discussing. Then, I accuse Jim Groovester, and you decide, "Hey, you know what? I have no one else to vote, so I'll vote you, WUBA."

This means you are basically going down to RVing and then tunneling until you find information, a clearly and obviously scummy way to do things.

And all because I accused forsaken and Jim Groovester. Did I tough a nerve? Perhaps the one connected to the Doppelganger bone connected to the other Doppelganger bone?
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« Reply #207 on: May 20, 2010, 11:17:40 pm »

No that's something forsaken and I are discussing.
We are? I don't actually care that you voted me and I don't recall discussing it.
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« Reply #208 on: May 20, 2010, 11:20:18 pm »

Sorry for lack of posts.
Pulling a pandar here:Finals week is what I must worry about.
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« Reply #209 on: May 20, 2010, 11:33:08 pm »

No that's something forsaken and I are discussing.
We are? I don't actually care that you voted me and I don't recall discussing it.
So you don't care that I'm currently voting you?
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