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Author Topic: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)  (Read 50313 times)

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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2010, 11:06:35 am »
Quote from: Man In Zero G on May 01, 2010, 09:35:00 am
Hell does not have too many demons. It has exactly the right number: "more".
Because if it needs more, it just makes more. At any given time, there are not "infinite" demons - there are only the ones you've released so far. If those weren't enough to kill you, the game makes more. It's not keeping track if 18 trillion (or whatever the current theory is) individuals of each demon species sitting around in the slade - it isn't keeping track of ANY except the ones who've already escaped - and even then, I doubt it keeps track of unnamed demons after the fort crumbles. When you reclaim, it just makes more.
In other words, until you breech hell, there are no demons except the ones in world gen. Once you breech it - there are always more.
That's what makes it Fun.

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« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2010, 12:11:55 pm »
Quote from: KillerClowns on April 29, 2010, 09:22:32 am
we're Dwarf Fortress players, and doing things that were meant to be impossible, for no more reward than proving once and for all that we can, is what we do.

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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2010, 05:56:20 pm »
You know, that's so simple and Fun, I wonder why it never occurred to anyone before.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2010, 05:59:32 pm »
Quote from: Arkenstone on May 01, 2010, 05:56:20 pm
You know, that's so simple and Fun, I wonder why it never occurred to anyone before.
We were too busy arguing about the definition of infinity.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2010, 08:22:54 pm »
I kinda wish I could release demons into the wild and play in an eternal hell world until the universe implodes. If only.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #80 on: May 01, 2010, 09:00:59 pm »
Well, why not just mod them in as "regular" creatures then?
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Dwarven economics are still in the experimental stages. The humans have told them that they need to throw a lot of money around to get things going, but every time the dwarves try all they just end up with a bunch of coins lying all over the place.

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Feel free to ask me any questions you have about logic/computing; I'm majoring in the topic.

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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2010, 09:21:06 pm »
Nope. Bodies are randomized and raws are hidden from us.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2010, 11:10:00 pm »
Could definitely mod in critters just as bloody vicious an weird as 'em, though. Caste system would even let you have 'herds' of the buggers, iirc, iffin' you're looking for that sorta' thing.

S'nothin' really stopping folks from replacing the wildlife with semi-megabeast demon critters unilaterally, beyond the difficulty of getting regular critters (read: Da' dwarves an' other buggers) to survive in that sorta' world. 'Sides the effort, maybe. Guess you could just set the world-gen to stop really early, before the demon-critters eat everybody.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #83 on: May 01, 2010, 11:20:58 pm »
Well then, just make up your own.

Also, look through the string dump a bit.  (You have to scroll down a bit, but there's something there that looks suspiciously like a raw file.
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Dwarven economics are still in the experimental stages. The humans have told them that they need to throw a lot of money around to get things going, but every time the dwarves try all they just end up with a bunch of coins lying all over the place.

The EPIC Dwarven Drinking Song of Many Names

Feel free to ask me any questions you have about logic/computing; I'm majoring in the topic.

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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #84 on: May 02, 2010, 01:22:28 am »
Sooner or later, someone will make an entire world inhabited by demonic monsters.

Might even get to play as them. Or mod dwarves to the point where they can compete on relatively equal levels. Upgrade humans and goblins, too.

Let the elves burn.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #85 on: May 02, 2010, 12:14:28 pm »
Can you mod dwarfs to be immortal? Like, take out their internal organs and replace their bones with adamantium.

I'm pretty sure a squad of immortal dwarferines could put a dent in the clown community.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #86 on: May 02, 2010, 01:46:00 pm »
You most definitely can. And set their speed to 0, make them larger than colossi, make the entire species physically and mentally perfect, and have them spit slade like a machine-gun, which'll usually penetrate enough to kill even the normally unkillable critters. Perhaps some sort of contact poison capable of dissolving flesh, or breathing blasts of gas hotter than the sun. Let them call adamantine out of thin air, or some magical substance combining the best aspects of adamantine, slade, and burning magma, and forge weapons capable of splitting planets from them. Any one of those freakish super-dwarves can slaughter dozen upon dozens of HFS buggers.

Demon production does not slow, even after you've got dwarves walking around with a demon kill list in the hundreds. I've tried, heh. The carnage is glorious.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2010, 01:50:59 pm by Frumple »
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #87 on: May 02, 2010, 01:53:00 pm »
Quote from: Frumple on May 02, 2010, 01:46:00 pm
You most definitely can. And set their speed to 0, make them larger than colossi, make the entire species physically and mentally perfect, and have them spit slade like a machine-gun, which'll usually penetrate enough to kill even the normally unkillable critters. Perhaps some sort of contact poison capable of dissolving flesh, or breathing blasts of gas hotter than the sun. Let them call adamantine out of thin air, or some magical substance combining the best aspects of adamantine, slade, and burning magma, and forge weapons capable of splitting planets from them. Any one of those freakish super-dwarves can slaughter dozen upon dozens of HFS buggers.

Demon production does not slow, even after you've got dwarves walking around with a demon kill list in the hundreds. I've tried, heh. The carnage is glorious.

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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #88 on: May 02, 2010, 02:18:26 pm »
Quote from: Frumple on May 02, 2010, 01:46:00 pm
You most definitely can. And set their speed to 0, make them larger than colossi, make the entire species physically and mentally perfect, and have them spit slade like a machine-gun, which'll usually penetrate enough to kill even the normally unkillable critters. Perhaps some sort of contact poison capable of dissolving flesh, or breathing blasts of gas hotter than the sun. Let them call adamantine out of thin air, or some magical substance combining the best aspects of adamantine, slade, and burning magma, and forge weapons capable of splitting planets from them. Any one of those freakish super-dwarves can slaughter dozen upon dozens of HFS buggers.

Demon production does not slow, even after you've got dwarves walking around with a demon kill list in the hundreds. I've tried, heh. The carnage is glorious.
The best part: Each uberdwarf still only takes up one square.
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Re: Do you think hell has too many demons? (SPOILERS!!!)
« Reply #89 on: May 06, 2010, 02:32:02 pm »
We kick logic out the window and make the impossible possible!  Just who the hell do you think we are?!  WE'RE TEAM DWARF FORTRESS!!!

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