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[Matuin]

24th Timber, 1054, Late Autumn

I... Um...

Bora is.. Asleep. I don't know what stroke of luck we've had and whether the beast will awaken and murder us all, but for now, she has fallen asleep on top of one of our pumps in the cavern...

I've ordered that section of the cavern walled off. We'll leave her be for now. I am planning to wall her in and dump magma on top of her, but I do not think I will get it done in time...

[Robocorn]

24th Timber, 1054, Late Autumn
I've ordered that section of the cavern walled off. We'll leave her be for now. I am planning to wall her in and dump magma on top of her, but I do not think I will get it done in time...

Don't kill her! Think of all the low boots I could make with those pink scales! They probably defend pretty well too. catch it in a cage trap! most of the titans are vulnerable to that crap.

EDIT: or make a fortification in the walls around it and shoot it with a ballista or something. Rewmember her wings!

[Urist Imiknorris]

catch it in a cage trap! most of the titans are vulnerable to that crap.

She's destroyed the cage traps and doors in our cavern and is ascending the stairs.

[heyguys]

EDIT: or make a fortification in the walls around it and shoot it with a ballista or something. Rewmember her wings!

brilliant.

[Matuin]

Ever since our beastie showed up, my FPS has gone to shit. No idea why, it just has.

Almost through Moonstone. Save'll be up by the end of the night.

Update: Literally nothing happened. My FPS has gone insane and I can't finish my turn like this. It's almost to spring, so I'll just pass it on. Maybe the next person can find a solution to the FPS issues.

Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2300

[Quatch]

Probably fell asleep while climbing. Unconcious people treat stairs as holes.   

Stay out of my bedroom!

Booze issue was barrel based.  I did note that we needed a new well, and the pump stack I worked o. Was in the zoom list. My changing the announcements carried through? Odd. Sorry about that, I generally don't use them until something goes wrong.

At least you had food. Robocorn left me with neither

note: our trader died? That was me. Am I dead?

[heyguys]

note: our trader died? That was me. Am I dead?

occasionally administrater migrants arrive with that title, i'm hoping thats what it is.

[Oglokoog]

123BIG and mine turns are going to be such wonderful fun... also, in one of my forts, I've got a 3x3 staircase going down a hundredsomething levels and nobody's ever died from falling down the stairs. Weird.

[Matuin]

123BIG and mine turns are going to be such wonderful fun... also, in one of my forts, I've got a 3x3 staircase going down a hundredsomething levels and nobody's ever died from falling down the stairs. Weird.

Did your staircase have open sides that led into the cavern? Dwarves will dodge off cliffs in an attempt to not share a space with another dwarf/animal

[heyguys]

edit: In other news, my hatred of migrants is causing me to try to worldgen a pocket region with an absurd amount of caves, 5 volcanos, 50 megabeasts, 666 types of demons and top it off with the dwarf civs being dead but at minimum both goblins and humans still alive, edit: and also the volcano being amidst a cave and a dense forest with a 2x2 embark. Its not going well.

also I am planning a mega-project for this fort to be completable in one year.

[Oglokoog]

123BIG and mine turns are going to be such wonderful fun... also, in one of my forts, I've got a 3x3 staircase going down a hundredsomething levels and nobody's ever died from falling down the stairs. Weird.

Did your staircase have open sides that led into the cavern? Dwarves will dodge off cliffs in an attempt to not share a space with another dwarf/animal

No, it didn't. I try to carve stairs instead of constructing them. I guess that explains it

[Matuin]

123BIG and mine turns are going to be such wonderful fun... also, in one of my forts, I've got a 3x3 staircase going down a hundredsomething levels and nobody's ever died from falling down the stairs. Weird.

Did your staircase have open sides that led into the cavern? Dwarves will dodge off cliffs in an attempt to not share a space with another dwarf/animal

No, it didn't. I try to carve stairs instead of constructing them. I guess that explains it

Yeah, I keep my stairs walled in, preferably in natural columns, to avoid flying beasties...

[Oglokoog]

123BIG and mine turns are going to be such wonderful fun... also, in one of my forts, I've got a 3x3 staircase going down a hundredsomething levels and nobody's ever died from falling down the stairs. Weird.

Did your staircase have open sides that led into the cavern? Dwarves will dodge off cliffs in an attempt to not share a space with another dwarf/animal

No, it didn't. I try to carve stairs instead of constructing them. I guess that explains it

Yeah, I keep my stairs walled in, preferably in natural columns, to avoid flying beasties...

I've downloaded one of the saves for this fort and a few minutes in a giant cave swallow started killing wardawgs in the central stockpile. Just sayin'.

[heyguys]

Hey, quick question: did anyone confirm if the "submarine" idea, whereby I construct a room made entirely out of metal and totally sealed off from the world connected only by a single suspended constructed floor tile, will it collapse any number of Z-levels down without deconstructing the walls or the objects inside?

edit: nevermind. Apparently this requires natural cast obsidian. the set up would take more than a year.

I was thinking a proof of concept vehicle containing 2 usable squares, one for a bed and one for a coffin and then dropped into the mouth of the volcano. However, after reviewing the thread on this subject, it seems to me that digging the thing in solid rock, and then digging a shaft into the magma sea would be better. Wait for a dwarf to sleep, and collapse it to see if the vessle survives the fall. However it would take a long time and there are inherent risks in letting magma creatures loose through this tunnel.

edit: On second thought it would just be easier to pump up water from the cave sea to make a multiple z-level deep artificial lake in the earth itself and then dropping the completed (including muddied plots) vehicle into the artifical lake.

[Oglokoog]

*questions about submarine*

I have done some testing on this topic and it seems completely undoable in magma (even natural rock, regardless of its melting point, evaporates/melts when touching the magma after a cave-in) and probably also impossible in water. All my tests have been run inside a mountain, so I don't know what would happen if the vehicle were to fall through water, but collision with the bottom of a shaft, even after a mere 1 z-level drop, turns this: (side view)

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WWWThe "d" on the first picture is a dwarf. In the second picture, the dwarf is dead, because stone seems to "compact", fall to the lowest possible level, when hitting ground. This makes it effectively impossible to build a submarine with a ceiling and I think it is somehow unlikely that a dwarf would be able to build a ceiling before the sub completely sank. My original idea (before I found out that falling natural stone walls melt/evaporate) was that the submarine would be a really tall stone pillar with a 3x3 hole in it that would house two dwarves - a good-at-everything-food-and-booze-related explorator who would stay alive and an expendable legendary mason (as contradictory as that sounds) who would wait for the drop, somehow climb out of the hole and build a ceiling over it. He would then die as the submarine slowly sank to the bottom of the magma sea. As I already said, however, it is impossible. I do hope that Toady notices that somebody wants to do it and makes it possible, though