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Author Topic: Why do my dwarves turn into morbidly obese monstrosities after a few years?  (Read 11238 times)

Vester

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There's actually a bit of Strong Belwas in that.
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Im gonna guess its another problem with the health system..or you built an American Dwarf Fortress.  At a McDonald's.
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Lytha

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Yes, the whale was probably extremely nourishing. Also, I modded the unicorns to [PET] and to giving milk which could be turned into cheese... and since there were dozens of unicorn herds roaming the map, the dwarves later on did eat not much else but unicorn eye roasts with minced unicorn cheese. Delicious and perhaps very rich in calories.


But I tend to lose interest in my DF2010 fortresses extremely quickly (as soon as I hit the caverns layers, which interrupt my central staircase, and realize that the magma is down 120 z-levels, that is), so I will monitor the weight development in my new fortress.

That, and the fact that there are literally no sentient/civilized survivors on this planet, except my dwarves and the cyclops tribe who killed everyone, might keep me interested.

I wonder if there will be immigrants... the last dwarven civilization fell in 117.

Anyway, at the start only one of them (Lor, farmer) was "fat"; the rest was apparently average (no mention of the fat at all); or even "skinny" (Bomrek, doctor) and "very skinny" (Catten, metalsmith).


In early summer, they are already changing their weight.
Lor: "corpulent" (from "fat")
Bomrek: "thin" (from "skinny")
Erith, expedition leader: "not very tall, but makes up for it with large layers of muscles and fat" (from "not very tall, but muscular")
Catten: still "very skinny".

Deler (stoneworker), Lokum (woodworker), Nomal (miner): no change.

The only ones that really worked so far were Nomal (mining), Erith (pumping some aquifer saltwater into a reservoir for desalinazing), and Lor (farming). The others mostly socialized.

There won't be whales on this map, and I brought some kittens and a breeding pair of two-humped camels with me. Outside is nothing but a freezing arctic sea and a freezing tundra (no trees, no shrubs). I've seen a muskox herd and one member of the cyclops tribe.
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Vester

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Maybe dwarven metabolism is just really efficient. They digest and store everything they can, and throw up whatever they can't. That'd explain the rapid weight changes.
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Lytha

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I don't know... massive constipation or "fat = tough" seems to be it though. Or perhaps it's connected to their relationship status?


Autum 201:

Expedition leader has gone all the way from "short but muscular" to "short and obese". Congratulations.  :'(

She didn't do much in this half a year, mostly socializing and chatting with the lover.


The really hard-working miner is growing fat, too.

The woodworker spontaneously gained some fat as well. Must've been that 1 bed, 1 enormous corkscrew, 1 pipe that he constructed so far.


There have thankfully only been 5 immigrants. I guess it pays off that this world is totally dead and the fortress in the middle of the arctic sea.
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Perhaps the different "grades" of prepared food are to blame? Higher grades of food have more units of resources, and are perhaps more fattening?

Someone should compare the results of eating lavish (roasts) food, and easy (biscuits).
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Even my miners, overworked as they are, are all corpulent these days!
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I have no kitchen and most of diet is raw plump helmets and forgotten beasts remnaints.
All my dwarfs are 'very flimsy' and 'very clumsy'. 7th year fort here.
Didn't find any 'fat' or 'obese' dwarfs.
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That sounds like a good correlation between quality and corpulence.
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What, do you make them lavish meals? That explains it.
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Yes, I turn 4 stacks of food items into 1 in the kitchen, saving me some storage space. For some reasons, I'm sitting on less than half a biome tile right now and don't really expand out of it... so, the storage space is tight. I even have workshops in the main corridor. Will change that, as soon as I figure out how to cope with those caverns. Apartments with windows down into small enclosed caverns might be cute.

Anyway, the weight development of the dwarves is still quite disturbing.

Example 1: An immigrant.
Average -> Scrawny -> Fat -> Fat

Example 2: Expedition leader.
Muscular -> Fat+Muscular -> Obese -> Just incredibly fat.

Example 3: Another immigrant.
Broad with little muscle -> Very fat + Broad-bodied

The current winner would be the immigrant diagnoser. From "broad-bodied, yet weak" -> "broad and made broader still by no shortage of surrounding lard"


What's interesting is that the body shape seems to change at age transitions. One baby was extremely muscular, and turned into a scrawny and average child.


But in any case, some dwarves here in the tundra haven't grown into fatties (yet). I'll keep observing them.
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Does being morbidly obese affect their ability to wear normal clothes and armor?


Oh God, does it mean they're all running around naked too?
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Lytha

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Yes! Right now, they are all running around in the nude. I waited until their original clothes rotted off before I started the production of new ones, because I really hate it when they clutter every floor tile with their slightly worn socks.
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But in any case, some dwarves here in the tundra haven't grown into fatties (yet). I'll keep observing them.

Come to think of it, the fat might increase their layering statistic.  You are, after all, on an arctic sea.

Maybe it's due to the biome?
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I remember a true story of a man who accidentally swung an operating chainsaw into his own belly.  It dug in, but in the end he didn't die because he was morbidly obese and it never got to his organs. His fat saved his life.

AFAIK Roman gladiators were heavy eaters for much the same reason - so Russell Crowe's sixpack is really quite ahistorical.
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