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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2700 on: April 20, 2011, 10:09:54 pm »
Quote from: sir_laser on April 20, 2011, 06:46:34 pm
This was attempted. The dragons were able to basically bypass iron armor ("...through the iron helm!" or "...through the iron greaves!", etc), bronze, and steel. They were also able to hit through adamantine fairly frequently (~60-80% of the time).

Huh, must be those combat numbers get odd at extreme size.  Or the armor does not increase with thickness as size increases.  Can't honestly say I tried it with dragon size stuff.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2701 on: April 20, 2011, 10:28:35 pm »
Quote from: Greiger on April 20, 2011, 10:09:54 pm
Quote from: sir_laser on April 20, 2011, 06:46:34 pm
This was attempted. The dragons were able to basically bypass iron armor ("...through the iron helm!" or "...through the iron greaves!", etc), bronze, and steel. They were also able to hit through adamantine fairly frequently (~60-80% of the time).

Huh, must be those combat numbers get odd at extreme size.  Or the armor does not increase with thickness as size increases.  Can't honestly say I tried it with dragon size stuff.

Well, I pit the adamantine-clad dragons against bronze collossi and the statues were able to punch through the armor at times too (about as frequently as the dragons were). Maybe size is very important for combat?
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2702 on: April 20, 2011, 11:22:27 pm »
How do I increase the embark cost of an animal?

And while I'm here "common domestic" means every civ has access to it on embark right?
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2703 on: April 21, 2011, 01:03:06 am »
Quote from: Seriyu on April 20, 2011, 11:22:27 pm
How do I increase the embark cost of an animal?

And while I'm here "common domestic" means every civ has access to it on embark right?

Change the number in [PETVALUE].

If a creature has the tag [COMMON_DOMESTIC] (which every creature in the file creature_domestic.txt does), then every civilization has access to it on embark as long as it also has one of the following: [PET], [PACK_ANIMAL], [WAGON_PULLER], [MOUNT] and is [NATURAL] and not [FANCIFUL]. (http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Creature_token and ctrl-f "domestic")
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« Reply #2704 on: April 21, 2011, 01:04:23 am »
Okay, thanks.
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« Reply #2705 on: April 21, 2011, 12:43:10 pm »
I would like to start modding but don't know what to do actually

I want to make bunch of weird / useful hats and a "Hat Workshop" for crafting them
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2706 on: April 21, 2011, 04:47:33 pm »
Quote from: Quarynn on April 21, 2011, 12:43:10 pm
I would like to start modding but don't know what to do actually

I want to make bunch of weird / useful hats and a "Hat Workshop" for crafting them

That's as good a place as any. ;)

1) Make a new file called, say, item_hats.txt. Make sure it has the right item file format. Create some hats; copy the hood entries, maybe.
2) In whatever entity (civilization) you play, add your new hats so that your dwarves (or whatever) can actually use the hats.
3) Make a new world and embark somewhere; see if you can use the hats. Check your errorlog.txt to see if there are any errors.

So, that's the first step, creating hat items. Once you have THAT working, you can go on to create a workshop. But I personally haven't done that, so you'll have to ask someone else. ;) Be sure to read the Modding Guide on the wiki!
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« Reply #2707 on: April 21, 2011, 05:05:00 pm »
...A mad hatter's workshop? AHAHAHAH!!! Finally a use for cinnabar!!

Shame we can't make dwarves doing a custom job slowly go insane.

P.S. Custom workshops aren't as complex as they look.  For example everything in the soap maker's workshop between    [BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_S] and [BUILD_ITEM:1:BUCKET:NONE:NONE:NONE][EMPTY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]  Only controls what the workshop looks like.  And while it is something you would probably wanna learn how to modify, you get a perfectly functional workshop by copying that stuff directly from the soaper's shop or screw press.  The appearance is even possible to modify in a current save without needing to regen.  So it is something one could easily just throw in to make sure it works, then modify the appearance of later.
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« Reply #2708 on: April 21, 2011, 08:21:49 pm »
Any way to adjust how long a reaction takes to complete?
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« Reply #2709 on: April 21, 2011, 08:31:02 pm »
Quote from: narhiril on April 16, 2011, 11:36:43 pm
Insert the lines..

[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:0]

...and see what happens.
Well, after two full in-game years in my new world, I have determined that this doesn't work.

(i'm going to try changing the season and see if that's any better)

edit: On second thought, the elves have 1s instead of 0s. Maybe that will help...

I'm changing the season anyway, just so i don't have to wait as long to know if it worked. =/
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2710 on: April 21, 2011, 10:23:58 pm »
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:0]

used to mean instant sieges in 40d.

In 31.2x, they mean that the progress trigger is ignored for that value (Toady didn't approve of the Orc Mod, it seems).

You need to have at least 1 in each value. Unfortunately, the minimum population requirement for
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:1]
is 20 dwarves. However, the
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
Should hopefully mean near instant interaction anyway.
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« Reply #2711 on: April 22, 2011, 08:57:00 am »
Quote from: Chaoseed on April 21, 2011, 04:47:33 pm
Quote from: Quarynn on April 21, 2011, 12:43:10 pm
I would like to start modding but don't know what to do actually

I want to make bunch of weird / useful hats and a "Hat Workshop" for crafting them

That's as good a place as any. ;)

1) Make a new file called, say, item_hats.txt. Make sure it has the right item file format. Create some hats; copy the hood entries, maybe.
2) In whatever entity (civilization) you play, add your new hats so that your dwarves (or whatever) can actually use the hats.
3) Make a new world and embark somewhere; see if you can use the hats. Check your errorlog.txt to see if there are any errors.

So, that's the first step, creating hat items. Once you have THAT working, you can go on to create a workshop. But I personally haven't done that, so you'll have to ask someone else. ;) Be sure to read the Modding Guide on the wiki!

Well

I now got an item_hats.txt and these

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I also modified entity_default.txt

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But I don't know how my dwarves will be able to get these or wear these on embarking =/


EDIT:

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EDIT: Replaced all HATs to HELMs, no luck
« Last Edit: April 22, 2011, 09:12:00 am by Quarynn »
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2712 on: April 22, 2011, 11:37:43 am »
You need to give them a frequency too. You can have FORCED, COMMON, UNCOMMON, or RARE.

Or maybe it defaults to something if there's no frequency given, but add them anyway.
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Re: 0.31. MODDERS WORKSHOP (NEWCOMERS WELCOME!)
« Reply #2713 on: April 22, 2011, 01:03:54 pm »
Hi,
I made a creature, but it appears as "nothing", why?

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« Reply #2714 on: April 22, 2011, 01:04:38 pm »
It needs a CASTE_NAME.
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