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[Caesar]

Version 0.12

This mod tries to create a more diverse, more fantasy and more accurate representation of spiders in the world of Dwarf Fortress. Anybody is allowed to use any of the contents to their hearts wishes, including in their own mods. Just don't forget to tell me.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2028

Right now, the mod has been
cancelled/put on hold.

If you've got any ideas to help me modify the existing, and create new spiders, by the hate of Armok, help me in my quest to make dwarf fortress that tiny eight-legged bit more awesome!

I love spiders.

Accurate Spider anatomy

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

- Chelicerae
- Accurate naming of body parts
             - Abdomen -> Pisthosoma
             - Lung -> Book Lung
- Eight Eyes
- Place all intestines in their accurate position
- Add some still missing spider organs
- Very small hatchlings

Spiders;

(Giant) Cave Spiders

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- Slightly more realistic female/male relative body size
- More males than females
- More awesome overall
- Accurate spider anatomy
- More realistic style of combat (less tearing apart, more digesting paralyzed preys)
- Better description

Wolf Spiders

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- Plains for Biomes
- Uses Accurate Spider Anatomy
- New attacks/tactics
- Nice description

Sandman's Crawlers

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- Vermin
- Deadly Bite
- Inhabites caves

(Giant) Trapdoor Spiders

To do:

Blade Spiders
Spider-Hybrid People(s)

Various fantastic spiders I have in mind, but of which I do not want to spoil the surprise.

Various Tropical Spiders, both normal(vermin)-sized and giant versions

Additions/ideas;

Turning the baby 'caste' into some form of egg/changing hatchlings to child stage.
Spider-people hybrids -- Adding burrowing Giant Trapdoor Spiders to the spider people as a caste (Probably won't work, can't add specific jobs to castes.)

Giant baby snatching spiders -- Probably give them a dummy civ, without allowed professions except for the babysnatcher. Let them inhibit caves, like kobolds do.

I finished green spiders/additions, I am working/still have changes coming on/for orange spiders/additions, and haven't done anything on red spiders/additions yet.

Put off

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- More accurate anatomy/behaviour
             - Add muscles to the outsides of poison glands
             - Hydraulic walking
             - Eggs
             - 'Haired' legs
- Rotweb Spiders

Memo to self; Centaurs

Ideas/credits;

- Erk
- Warlord255
- Deon
- Gobbo

[Erk]

I've always wanted there to be some above-ground giant spiders... maybe less giant than the dreaded GCS, which should remain the granddaddy of giant spiders. I'd go for the dark green Great Leaf Spider of the broadleaf temperate forest, a bright orange Canopy Spider in the jungle - with an extremely deadly poison - and the webless Giant Wolf Spider of the plains, nearly as big as the GCS.

underground you could possibly add a few smaller spiders than the gcs, maybe something very poisonous with no webs and another with bladed legs like the blade spider in D&D....

My two cents. I'd love to see more spiders.

[Caesar]

Those sound pretty awesome.

I'm going to try and actually make some of those, thanks for inspiring me.

[Warlord255]

If you can get the babies to be near-vermin in size, that'd be neat.

Try modding Phantom Spiders in a similar way?

[Deon]

Awesome idea, Caesar. I think that you won't mind to be a part of the Genesis mod inspirators/helpers/developers?

I want to compile a list of credits for the next version so I hope you don't mind to be in. Also I hope you don't mind if your idea ends in the Genesis mod (with some tweaks) .

Anyway, your mod is totally cool and nice.

Erk

I plan to add spiders to evil forests/jungles as I expand Genesis mod with new beasts, so thank you for reminding me anyway .

[Caesar]

Awesome idea, Caesar. I think that you won't mind to be a part of the Genesis mod inspirators/helpers/developers?

I want to compile a list of credits for the next version so I hope you don't mind to be in. Also I hope you don't mind if your idea ends in the Genesis mod (with some tweaks) .

Anyway, your mod is totally cool and nice.

Erk

I plan to add spiders to evil forests/jungles as I expand Genesis mod with new beasts, so thank you for reminding me anyway .

I wouldn't mind, no, I would be honored.

Feel free to use whatever spiders I make however you see fit.

Memo to self; use preview to preview your post instead of saving, editing, saving and then editing a few million times.

[BigD145]

I plan to add spiders to evil forests/jungles as I expand Genesis mod with new beasts, so thank you for reminding me anyway .

[Gobbo]

Now give them a way to hold tools and let us cash in on these castes by founding Spider Fortresses.
Make a spider civ.
Let's do this.
My spiders will rule the world.

[Pathos]

Spoiler: Spider Web (click to show/hide)

Urgh, this used to happen every Autumn to all the trees by the power station near my house, since it'd been abandoned. The first time I saw it ( I was like eleven years old or something ) I thought it'd snowed heavily on these specific trees. Then I saw them swarming all over the trees and over the railing, which I'd been running my hand along.

Ever since, I've had nightmares of spiderlings swarming me in my bed and choking me to death with their webs.

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[Tripsky]

yay spider! go caesar!

two came immediately to mind:

the trapdoor spider - a burrowing spider. i don't know if digging can be implemented for animals and the like, but the thought of one of these bursting into my dwarves' dining hall just fills me with delight.

the spider wasp - okay, so not a spider, but so dwarfy in it's nature....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_wasp
 They paralyze the spider with a venomous stinger. Once paralyzed, the spider is dragged to where a nest will be built – some wasps having already made a nest. A single egg is laid on the abdomen of the (live) spider, and the nest – or burrow – is closed.
Spider wasps are often seen digging in soft sandy soil, dragging huntsman spiders along. Some species are known to bite off the legs of large hairy spiders, trimming them to make them easier to handle. Others have scales that help them walk on spiders' webs, allowing them to sneak up and attack the owner.

i know the babysnatching token can't be used on animals (or so i believe), but i like the idea of a spider that sneaks into your fort to grab a tasty morsel... 

[Caesar]

I'm at school right now, which inhibits me making any progress, but I'll add some more ideas to my schedule anyways.

[Deon]

Memo to self; use preview to preview your post instead of saving, editing, saving and then editing a few million times.

Haha, it's my problem too.

Your spider tweaks go into .07 which is released shortly.

P.S. You may want to add [ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE] to spiders' attacks. They have sharp mandibles after all. Without it they have real problems injecting their poison.

P.P.S. Argh, editing again . Anyway, why do you leave them with 2 eyes? Poor spiders should have more.

P.P.P.S. http://bugguide.net/node/view/84423
Just 1 family has 2 eyes... There're more eye-less spiders than with 2 eyes. I think 8 eyes should be fine.

Code: [Select]

[BODY:8EYES_SPIDER]
[BP:LEYE:left big eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][LEFT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
[BP:LEYE:right big eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][RIGHT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
[BP:LEYE1:first left eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][LEFT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:5]
[BP:LEYE2:second left eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][LEFT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:5]
[BP:LEYE3:third left eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][LEFT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:5]
[BP:REYE1:first right eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][RIGHT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:5]
[BP:REYE2:second right eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][RIGHT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:5]
[BP:RYE3:third right eye:STP][CONTYPE:HEAD][SIGHT][EMBEDDED][SMALL][CATEGORY:EYE][RIGHT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:5]

[Acanthus117]

So DL'ing this when Spidermen come out.

[Deon]

They go into Genesis mod . And all credits for Caesar's changes and ideas go to Caesar (unexpected, right?).

[Acanthus117]

OH MY GOD DEON WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING YOU NEARLY GAVE ME A FUCKING HEART ATTACK OMFG

...

kidding.