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Author Topic: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]  (Read 57500 times)

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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #495 on: April 07, 2010, 04:18:10 pm »

I still haven't found out how to assign kill orders

what button is it?

schedule, choose a squad (probably a), choose kill and select the target.  It actually works really well once you find it.

Just remeber: you're SAK'ing them! :D

Ooh!  Perfect!
Probably unintentional, but still, perfect acronym.
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One of the toads decided to go for a swim in the moat - presumably because he could path through the moat to my dwarves. He is not charging in, just loitering in the moat.

The toad is having a nice relaxing swim.
The goblin mounted on his back, however, is drowning.

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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #496 on: April 07, 2010, 05:22:46 pm »

thanks!

too bad the giant rat that was in my fort has already wandered away.

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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #497 on: April 07, 2010, 08:19:38 pm »

Sorry for the double post



well, looks like I just found my chief medical dwarf!

also, I used the kill commands to get my militia commander to beat a gnome to death after one of them stole my alcohol. It wasn't the same gnome, but I'm sure they got the message.

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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #498 on: April 08, 2010, 06:49:34 am »

*can't cook meat
*dwarves don't eat meat?
*shell/bone stockpiles don't work/exist (body parts instead is a pain to micromanage)
*boozecooking (why is this not simply gone?) is buggy
*hunting is broken
*hauling can produce some weird lockups (for one season now, various dwarves try to haul a turtle shell from the surface inside but eventually give up)
*removal of above ground remains is..weird? not working?
*fishing makes dwarves die of thirst (cancelling zone and labor permission does, well, work sometimes)
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #499 on: April 08, 2010, 07:04:53 am »

*can't cook meat
*dwarves don't eat meat?
*shell/bone stockpiles don't work/exist (body parts instead is a pain to micromanage)
*boozecooking (why is this not simply gone?) is buggy
*hunting is broken
*hauling can produce some weird lockups (for one season now, various dwarves try to haul a turtle shell from the surface inside but eventually give up)
*removal of above ground remains is..weird? not working?
*fishing makes dwarves die of thirst (cancelling zone and labor permission does, well, work sometimes)

I don't know about you but I can certainly cook meat and my dwarves do eat it. Refuse stockpiles work fine for bones in my game, though shells do not. Booze cooking was a bug before, and is still buggy. Never seen the hauling issue you describe personally. Remains above ground sometimes do not rot, aye. Not sure why. I've never had dwarves die of thirst while performing a labor... well other than fighting.
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #500 on: April 08, 2010, 09:17:42 am »

Dwarfs won't go get a drink 'till they're either really thirsty or get the job done. It's a bug. They also get unhappy thoughts from this.
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« Reply #501 on: April 08, 2010, 09:42:25 am »

Dwarfs won't go get a drink 'till they're either really thirsty or get the job done. It's a bug. They also get unhappy thoughts from this.

actually, i don't know if it's a bug but it's a bit annoying. Ideally, i'd like to have a kind of "mobilization level" setting that would allow more or less slack in our dwarfs job handling.
You could set it to dictatorial, have the dwarf forced to work until and eventually beyond exhaustion/thirst/hunger unhappy thoughts if prolonged too long, just as it currently is or even more absolute, down to slack and lax setting where your dwarfs would take extra leisure, get extra happy thought from it but not work much.

And they could even grow accustomed to lazyness and thus not gain happy thoughts anymore after some time but still get unhappy if ordered to work more,, and then... well, that would be expanding on the idea, but i think this kind of setting would be nice.

It would allow us to order total mobilization to defend from a siege or complete a vital project, but also to throttle down the work intensity in normal time. And would be more  realistic than a fixed level anyway.

Do you think i should post that in suggestions or something ?
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #502 on: April 08, 2010, 12:51:53 pm »

I can confirm these silly "died of thirst" cases.

One of my Soap makers died of thirst while partying maybe 3 tiles from a Stockpile with 2000 booze..
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #503 on: April 08, 2010, 01:08:15 pm »

Is this normal?
I looked through legends(150 yr genned world) and I have about 52 pages of megabeasts.
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« Reply #504 on: April 08, 2010, 01:13:34 pm »

Is this normal?
I looked through legends(150 yr genned world) and I have about 52 pages of megabeasts.

Megabeasts or Forgotten Beasts?
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #505 on: April 08, 2010, 01:18:56 pm »

Is this normal?
I looked through legends(150 yr genned world) and I have about 52 pages of megabeasts.

Megabeasts or Forgotten Beasts?
both
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #506 on: April 08, 2010, 01:20:21 pm »

Sorry for the double post



well, looks like I just found my chief medical dwarf!

also, I used the kill commands to get my militia commander to beat a gnome to death after one of them stole my alcohol. It wasn't the same gnome, but I'm sure they got the message.

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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #507 on: April 08, 2010, 01:25:48 pm »

Dwarfs won't go get a drink 'till they're either really thirsty or get the job done. It's a bug. They also get unhappy thoughts from this.

I'm pretty sure it's not a bug but a fix to previous problems that created it's own.  People were getting annoyed that dwarves were constantly canceling jobs to eat or drink.  Now they keep working until they're about to keel over.  Ideally we would want them to finish their current task, go get a drink then move on to the next task instead of canceling their current task or doing all of their queued tasks.
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #508 on: April 08, 2010, 07:20:59 pm »

*Anyone have meat or organs show up in the kitchen screen? I still can't get my cook to use them.
*It seems my dwarves now do eat meat - it for sure vanishes somehow. My prepared meals though do not contain any.
* how was boozecooking buggy in 40d? Anyway, I always turn it off, so not my prob.
*Is there a hunting how-to somewhere already?
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Re: New version - first impressions [Spoilers!]
« Reply #509 on: April 08, 2010, 07:29:01 pm »

*Anyone have meat or organs show up in the kitchen screen? I still can't get my cook to use them.
Meat shows up in my kitchen, yes. I'm not sure why yours wouldn't, I don't think I have edited my raws.
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* how was boozecooking buggy in 40d? Anyway, I always turn it off, so not my prob.
You could make booze biscuits out of nothing but booze. That's a bug. One doesn't pour a bunch of wine in a bucket, heat it, and then have a booze roast. Someone else said that Toady intends booze cooking to be a sort of glaze which will increase the quality of a meal without counting as one of the ingredients. That would be nice.
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