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Is it now possible to get steel equipment for non-dwarf starts (since Dwarf Forts are accessible)?. I raided an apparently abandoned dwarf fort and found nothing but iron.

I got 2 steel spears from kobolds in a dungeon.

[chevil]

Finally tried adventure mode in 40. series.

Tracking!
One night while walking in a village I bumped into a goblin vampire who immediately fled. I started sneaking and tracked him for some distance before quietly cutting of his toes of before he even was aware what was going on! That was a satisfying kill.
But why does my adventurer always cry when fighting? Even after fights where he takes no damage he has a coating of tears on his eyes.

[pisskop]

Finally tried adventure mode in 40. series.

Tracking!
One night while walking in a village I bumped into a goblin vampire who immediately fled. I started sneaking and tracked him for some distance before quietly cutting of his toes of before he even was aware what was going on! That was a satisfying kill.
But why does my adventurer always cry when fighting? Even after fights where he takes no damage he has a coating of tears on his eyes.

You aren't your adventurer; you 'possess' him and force him to kill people and get attacked by wolves and bogeymen.  Also his discipline and hardness is crap . . . so emotional trauma.  Fortress dwarves do it too.

As to tracking, it will be cooler when the ai does it back to you.

[Amperzand]

Is that actually canon, or just headcanon? Awesome either way, and I totally agree, although my adventurer does the same thing and is an empathyless sociopath, so I doubt it's emotional trauma that makes him cry.

[Ziusudra]

They are NOT crying.

You have a coating of tears on your eyes right now. Are you crying?

Crying is when you have tears somewhere else, like cheeks.

[BlackFlyme]

Is that actually canon, or just headcanon? Awesome either way, and I totally agree, although my adventurer does the same thing and is an empathyless sociopath, so I doubt it's emotional trauma that makes him cry.

Toady mentioned it before, but I can't seem to find the quote at the moment. Adventurers are like any other unit. They have emotions, likes, dislikes, friendships, and all that stuff. It's just that the player overrides that when they are in control.

They are NOT crying.

You have a coating of tears on your eyes right now. Are you crying?

Crying is when you have tears somewhere else, like cheeks.

Not the way it works right now. Secretions generally don't leave the part they come out of. Tears only occur when the unit is suffering from an extreme emotional state. When they have tear coatings, they are or were in an emotional state of joy, fear, anger, etc.

[Rumrusher]

Is that actually canon, or just headcanon? Awesome either way, and I totally agree, although my adventurer does the same thing and is an empathyless sociopath, so I doubt it's emotional trauma that makes him cry.

Toady mentioned it before, but I can't seem to find the quote at the moment. Adventurers are like any other unit. They have emotions, likes, dislikes, friendships, and all that stuff. It's just that the player overrides that when they are in control.

They are NOT crying.

You have a coating of tears on your eyes right now. Are you crying?

Crying is when you have tears somewhere else, like cheeks.

Not the way it works right now. Secretions generally don't leave the part they come out of. Tears only occur when the unit is suffering from an extreme emotional state. When they have tear coatings, they are or were in an emotional state of joy, fear, anger, etc.

yeah also it's a splattering of tears on your face, so your guy is constantly Bawling their eyes out with tears... and usually they are in a emotional state of Fear and Dread for seeing A Dead body or Seeing someone Die.

Every new adventurer has to go through the horrors of death, and using Dfhack you can check to see what their past emotions or reasons of feeling are,
one of them is trauma and or seeing Death. Pretty much goes through all the emotions and stuff your dwarves would go through, but with out the ability to run away and junk.

I also learn you're better off cleaning your face or you might have your head melt off from your Tears getting super hot from being near a fire for so long.

that said this means NPCs in fire would burn to death due to fat melting leading to heavy bleeding(leading to the blood to getting super hot and melting the body) completely off or they shed a tear and now the Tear is at the heat temp of Magma and has no boiling point either.

[Max™]

So I had a weird fort that I was using a low pop cap with the armoks blessing script I had just discovered to see what I could accomplish with 20 superdorfs. I got some massive engraved columns dug out, a steel industry began, and started raising the population cap while digging out magma pistons and setting up pumpstacks for those times when I feel the world just isn't quite burning enough, normal fortress stuff.

The weird part was when a migrant showed up and my usual method of simply seeing who doesn't have capped skills to keep track of them/assign squads/jobs/etc was messed up because this guy was maxed out already... "ah ha, a vampire, awesome!" I think, placed him in a squad, stationed, and then locked him in a room until he started getting hungry and thirsty. Guy was only 20 something, no profaned gods, no massive list of prior group memberships, he actually wasn't a vampire... just awesome.

So, feeling bad about accusing him (his name was "Urist McVampy" >.>) I changed it to "Urist McLegendary", and when the fort became a barony and duchy, he was promoted--didn't hurt that the only annoying demand he ever made was a rose gold bed in his throne room--and as the fort progressed over the 5 years til the first goblin siege, he ended up in almost full artifact steel plate with a plat war hammer named LashBrushed.

Now that dfhack is working for 40.19 I decided to try out the whole mode set > arena > control > mode set adventurer > dfusion > change adventurer method and began running around wrecking stuff with him, which was naturally hilariously gruesome. Smashed heads for everyone!

Now, this is my first time actually playing adventure mode, did I mention that? Well it is, so I had to tweak my keybinds, figure out how to do basic things like eat, drink, sleep, plus stop killing people while I'm trying to talk to them (whoops, using confirm attack as enter is not a good idea, weeee) so after slaughtering a cave full of elves I went west and found a dark tower... awesome, and I get to the bottom with... surprisingly little drama... and find this:

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A room PACKED with trolls, while I'm playing on a hilariously skilled/statted/equipped dorf I stole from my own fort?

Oh hell yes, let's party!

*begins slaughtering them*

*notices they aren't really uh... swarming me, making my usual "headshot+dodge to the side, let them close, repeat" method not as cinematic looking*

*kills a Troll Carpenter*

"Hmmm... is that normal?"

*notices trolls being horrified by what I'm doing*

"Ok, I'm a little confused here."

*kills a Troll Administrator*

"Seriously?"

So uh... did I just find a cave full of civilized peaceful trolls? I wonder if I they would engage in trade or...

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Well crap, I accidentally the whole troll:

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Now I'm curious though, are civilized and non-aggressive goblins and trolls normal in adventure mode? Not all behave this way, and I found several normal trolls which just attack me, as well as goblins, but a whole cave of troll craftsmen and nobles?

[smjjames]

Yeah, the trolls in goblin sites are wierdly passive to your adventurer. It's a known bug.

Goblins living in (or passing through) other civilization sites are peaceful unless you attack or they just hate you. The civillian goblins in goblin sites will tend to just run, which is normal.

[Max™]

Oh good, though I haven't had as much opportunity to encounter other goblins... it's a young world (only year 67 in an attempt to reduce fps death some) and they spent a lot of their population throwing themselves into my fortress meatgrinder. I keep getting asked to go slay a cyclops which I know for a fact is caged up in the fort, plus a hill titan which showed up while I was first testing my magma pumpstack... to hilariously expected results.

I keep finding abandoned dark pits, and I think I found the main fortress (it had three prisoners inside) but I see neither slab nor demons or anything else, though there is a mess of abandoned armor and clothing in the lower levels. I intend to go investigate some more once I figure out which one of the ramps leads me back up out of the caverns I stumbled across.

Naturally the one time I don't slaughter everything I see, it screws me, since I was subconsciously using the giblets as a trail of breadcrumbs to lead me back to the surface, but this time I ignored the first several groups of non-aggressive cave fauna I saw...

[Legendary Emu]

Well, I got high master throwing and archery, walked to a nearby town (Scaleddumplings) and then discovered it was being attacked by a horde of zombie goblins. I then discovered that pikes are not really that great when you have novice proficiency in them. And then I discovered that throwing sand and snow at them don't work, went and grabbed a severed goblin leg and tried beating one to death with it but then I got struck down after I threw a goblin head at one of the zambies.

Not much of an adventure story, but it's better than "Climbed a tree, fell and died."

Oh yeah, fisher berries are also not very good throwing weapons.

[Max™]

Hmmm, as I was stumbling through the caverns, lost one night... my FPS suffered an awful fright, when the monster population began to rise, and suddenly before my eyes, they did the mash.

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They did the monster mash... all of them, I tried to kill them so I could figure out which way the ramp leading back up to the lair was (I tracked down the lair itself using the compass, but wasn't able to find the way back up, saved and went to bed... came back to the mess above, including two cave dragons which I killed) and finally I said screw it, dfhack -> gui/gm-editor -> pos -> z + 10... nada, z + 5... nada, z + 5...

*status changes to flying... and I drop three z levels to the ground... in the middle of ANOTHER monster mash of random animals and whatnot on the surface*

Good lord, that is a weird bug, but I'm back on the surface now... though a human spit on me, so I've been systematically visiting human hamlets and either depopulating them, or maiming everyone there, smashed hands, broken legs, then spit on the lord or lady present and leave.

[Max™]

Also, I'm sure I'm going to be so screwed when I switch to an adventurer who wasn't a legendary dorf I stole from my own fort... my current river fording approach is two steps:

1. work up speed

2. jump it

So there are some poor bastards who get rescued from a goblin tower by an absurdly muscular young dorf in super intricate armor, wearing five backpacks, a quiver, and four waterskins full of dingo blood... with a variety of weapons strapped in between them... he comes across a river with them following behind him, and instead of slowing down he just starts pumping his little dorf legs, full speed ahead, and cannonballs right over it.

Though they were probably used to this sort of thing, as it was the same method I used to cross the trenches on the way out of the tower... and lets not forget the massive rivers where he just hurtles up, leaps as far as he can, and then plunges into the water like a metal boulder, sure to drown... except I got accosted by a goblin vampire... and after awkwardly licking the corpse I realized I should have probably tried the blood on the ground first... but yeah, no worries about swimming, or getting tired, or water depth, just ploosh right in and show that raging body of water who's boss!

So I finally got tired of these guys, especially since they wanted to be escorted back to the waaaay far side of where I had been adventuring from... so I kinda accidentally let them get eaten by bogeymen, and in the process made a wonderful discovery: a treehumper craphouse of flammable suck.

I also remembered adventure fort is a thing, so I promptly load it up, equip my battle axe... and well...

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I swear that forest was like that when I got here...

Honest... and I had almost nothing to do with the fires, or the elf ears scattered around...

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[xaritscin]

started a human adventurer, expert axeman, got two followers and have survived just fine until now, have bronze equipment however. need to find some steel to cover up the rest if i can. for now i enjoy plenty of coins and well, not worrying about bogeymen.

the next step is to get stronger, and with better equipment until i can finally raid my fallen fortress. plenty of demons to kill, there doesnt seem to be a necromancer tower in this world so im left only with getting a strange mist or something similar in an evil biome if i want to become inmortal.

[Max™]

Hmmm, I found a slab, enslaved an armadillo demon to my will, and made it back to my fort with it... not sure how to get the demon to stick around after I retire, and though I recall hearing it wouldn't work I went ahead and tried the mode set > 3 (arena controlling creature) > ctrl-a > mode set > 4 (unretire fortress mode) and it gets me back to the fortress interface, but after unpausing it crashes.

I was a bit confused because after finding the vault I wasn't able to make it over to the room where I could see the slab, turns out there was a spot that probably should have had a ramp or down stair, which ended up as a floor instead, so I just went ahead and called it a gimme and pos'D down to do the rest... only to find that everything was non-aggressive and the big baddy I could only see the !'s from was just a giant earthworm... lame.

Anyway, I now have a well dressed armadillo demon sitting in the bedroom of the now-a-vampire duke of my fortress and no clue how to make mr. dapperdillo stick around when I unretire it. T.T