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immibis

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If you could automate anything...
« on: March 11, 2010, 01:12:11 am »

If you could automate anything with a machine in Dwarf Fortress, what would you automate?

Edit: I mean things that could be done with a machine no matter how complicated. Sorry for the unclear-ness.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 01:17:38 am »

I would like to teach the dwarves how to pull levers on their own, so as to operate airlocks and such. Failing that, I'd like to teach them how to path through pressure plate paths.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 01:21:43 am »

Teach them in what order you should build walls. "UristMcRetard cancels everything, trapped self in effing square structure."

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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 01:31:20 am »

Teach them in what order you should build walls. "UristMcRetard cancels everything, trapped self in effing square structure."

This.

*set corner piece priority to max*
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 01:40:10 am »

*set corner piece priority to max*

I know this is not quite what you meant but the idea of being able to set priorities in general would help A LOT.

"You, Mason!  See that horde of goblins coming?  See this wall I've ordered you to construct across the hallway to stop them?  That wall is REEEEALLY important.  Completing 15 mugs and picking up random socks - not so much."
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 01:40:31 am »

 Most of the problems with DF's systems are quirky but manageable.  What I'd like to see is full workshop automation by way of a Standing Orders menu: set it so that plants will be auto-brewed, meats will be auto-cooked into lavish meals as soon as enough ingredients are on hand, all quarry bushes automatically get bagged, all milk automatically gets made into cheese, there are always a minimum of x (optimally y) barrels/bags/bins free and more will be built when it drops below x until y is reached...  Basically, I want my Dwarves to not quit all work and wait for me to micromanage their jobs when their jobs should be possible to automate.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 01:47:33 am »

I was thinking mainly of in-game things that could be automated using elaborate mechanisms. Sorry if that was unclear, I'll edit the OP.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 02:12:59 am »

Might be drifting a bit out-of-period, but wouldn't it be nice to have a conveyor system for all the bloody rough stone (not that it has to be only for stone, but I can tolerate the rest)?
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 02:23:27 am »

I would like a pressure plate in the Trade Depot that delivered a mild, but irritating shock to the Trader every 5th frame that he wasn't standing on the Depot while he was requested there.

My dwarves just seem to LOVE doing anything except trading... "

Ohh! You need that ring made. Oh Oh! There's a fish out by the river! Hey! That's a nice statue! I'm tired..... Wow! I just looooove this engraving... Hey!? Wasn't there a caravan here just a few minutes ago? Why can't I have any booze!!!! RAAAAWR!"
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 02:35:08 am »

I would like a pressure plate in the Trade Depot that delivered a mild, but irritating shock to the Trader every 5th frame that he wasn't standing on the Depot while he was requested there.

My dwarves just seem to LOVE doing anything except trading... "

Ohh! You need that ring made. Oh Oh! There's a fish out by the river! Hey! That's a nice statue! I'm tired..... Wow! I just looooove this engraving... Hey!? Wasn't there a caravan here just a few minutes ago? Why can't I have any booze!!!! RAAAAWR!"

 That problem is a result of how the priority system works at this point.  Any "non-appointed" task gets bottom priority, while designated tasks tend to get top priority, skill-related jobs get the next highest, and hauling gets the next after that.  If you want a Dwarf to stop being an idiot and conduct a meeting or trade at the depot, you literally have to disable all skills so their only option besides trading or conducting a meeting is to idle.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 02:36:43 am »

Might be drifting a bit out-of-period, but wouldn't it be nice to have a conveyor system for all the bloody rough stone (not that it has to be only for stone, but I can tolerate the rest)?
Where would you put the stone?
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 02:44:15 am »

Personally either in magma or under some ever-repeating Dwarven Atom Smasher.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 02:45:53 am »

Automated dirt/wall digger. And give it to sieging goblins. That would make sieges really fun.

And for dwarves - "lever puller" job, that require dwarf to be at designated lever room at all time. And "pull that lever if you see nasties at that place" command in case of no-trap-triggering enemies.

Conveyor belt.

And that's not mechanism, but still - archery targets, made of something soft, so they don't destroy arrows.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 02:52:06 am »

And for dwarves - "lever puller" job, that require dwarf to be at designated lever room at all time.
And "pull that lever if you see nasties at that place" command in case of no-trap-triggering enemies.

Conveyor belt.

And that's not mechanism, but still - archery targets, made of something soft, so they don't destroy arrows.
I have an idea for the "pull that lever if you see nasties at that place" thing (but not completely reliable). You'd need a reason for multiple dwarves to be in a room within view but out of reach of the place you want to check all the time. A pressure plate at the only entrance/exit would notice when dwarves entered or exited, if there were maybe (number of dwarves - 1 or 2) triggers in a short time, the system would assume they're fleeing and that there was an enemy there.
I don't know how the control system would work, though, to check a certain number of triggers in a short time. Maybe a door lets water into a space that drains slowly and if the water is above 5/7 or so then activate the trap.
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Re: If you could automate anything...
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 03:29:14 am »

I remember somebody once made a conveyor belt for items.

It was a series of bridges that were on a repeater, so every time they raised they launched the cargo a short distance. Apparently it was quite laggy from all the airborne items all of a sudden.
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