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Pandarsenic

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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #75 on: March 03, 2010, 03:33:27 pm »

Wait, you have a university-wide reputation? How small is your university? O_o
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #76 on: March 03, 2010, 03:41:12 pm »

Wait, you have a university-wide reputation? How small is your university? O_o

10,000 people?  I'm serious--it seems like almost everyone I meet already knows me.  Professors, students, and so on.  If I start talking to someone, that person's friends will say to him "WAIT, you're friends with that girl?  The one with the hair?  And the ribbon?"

So yes.  I stick out one hell of a lot.  I walk down the street and draw stares from all the passers-by (even when I'm dressed relatively normally).  I don't know what it is, but for some reason I just seem to not fit.  My mum thinks it's because I walk like I'm going to run people over; other people think it's because I'm always focused; other estimates think it's general clothing style/behavior, or the extreme self-confidence I (apparently) broadcast.  I've had multiple tables start arguing about me in the dining hall.

I don't know, but it's there, and it's kind of odd.
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #77 on: March 03, 2010, 03:42:47 pm »

"WAIT, you're friends with that girl?  The one with the hair?"

This sort of quote sounds like it has something AWESOME behind it.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2010, 03:46:25 pm by Pandarsenic »
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #78 on: March 03, 2010, 03:45:00 pm »

It's a girl. In mathematics. Who acts crazy. There's not that many of them, and when there are they're grey background creatures, in my personal experience.

The only university-wide known person we had was a 13-yr old rainmanboy doing mathematics, and his mother would take him from class to class.
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #79 on: March 03, 2010, 03:46:47 pm »

"WAIT, you're friends with that girl?  The one with the hair?"

This sort of quote sounds like it has something AWESOME behind it.

My hair is really long.  I don't know what the big deal is about it, but apparently it's my chief identifier (as opposed to the paper parasol or boots).

...

Okay, and when I forget to brush it for a few days, it totally explodes and I have this sort of wispy curly halo thing to go with my braid, and so I look like I'm being attacked by some sort of small animal.


It's a girl. In mathematics. Who acts crazy. There's not that many of them, and when there are they're grey background creatures, in my personal experience.

The only university-wide known person we had was a 13-yr old rainmanboy doing mathematics, and his mother would take him from class to class.

That would probably do it, yeah.  It can't help that I run around writing snarky comments from "The Mathematical Beautification Society (Established Spring 2009)" on available blackboards whenever I have time.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2010, 04:21:40 pm by Vector »
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #80 on: March 03, 2010, 03:47:32 pm »

OH GOD MY JACKED UP QUOTE TAGS SCREWED YOUR POST UP

WHAT HAVE I DOOOOOOONE
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #81 on: March 03, 2010, 04:08:41 pm »

Compared to my quirks when with friends or online, I tend to be mercifully quiet on campus. Even so, people who I don't know (or at least don't remember) often know me... what I do to make an impression on them, I can't fathom.

I envy those of you who can go to university full time. I seriously can't wait until I can be done with this "part time student/work" thing... I'm not ready to sell my soul to the corporate machine yet! D:



The trance thing still sounds like what happens when I get into a "groove". It's like a permutation of autopilot, in that I don't have to consciously think about the rules of improvisation- what scales, intervals, and rhythems would work within a given key and style, at a given moment- because they can be intuited while in that mental state.

Perhaps it could be described as trusting your prexisting knowledge fully, such that it becomes second-nature. Something like the difference between "thinking" and "knowing".

I guess this is a bit innane though, since one can only their own mind, and even that is highly suspect without an outside frame of reference to compare against... but nevertheless, I stick to my guns!
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« Reply #82 on: March 03, 2010, 04:52:57 pm »

Compared to my quirks when with friends or online, I tend to be mercifully quiet on campus. Even so, people who I don't know (or at least don't remember) often know me... what I do to make an impression on them, I can't fathom.

I envy those of you who can go to university full time. I seriously can't wait until I can be done with this "part time student/work" thing... I'm not ready to sell my soul to the corporate machine yet! D:

Yeah, I'm extremely lucky that my parents are paying for the full 4 years of university education.  I think most of my quirks end up not showing up online, fortunately.  At school, though, I'm the person who builds cathedrals out of salt and pepper shakers and bottles of tabasco sauce =/

I don't know.  This is weird to think about, given that for me all these behaviors are normal.  I never used to be able to understand why other people didn't act like me; I act like this because it's what comes naturally, and because it always ends up leaking out all over the place, no matter how hard I try to cover it over.  I wear what I think is normal clothing and end up getting stared at anyway; I freak out over things that bother no one else, try to hide it, and mostly end up seeming outrageous; I get stressed and build random things out of available materials, but no one else seems to.  This all used to drive me crazy when I was younger.  Nowadays I figure that if no one else is going to be bizarre, I'll be bizarre for the rest of them and stop worrying about what others think of me.  Causes less stress for everyone concerned, I imagine.


The trance thing still sounds like what happens when I get into a "groove". It's like a permutation of autopilot, in that I don't have to consciously think about the rules of improvisation- what scales, intervals, and rhythms would work within a given key and style, at a given moment- because they can be intuited while in that mental state.

Perhaps it could be described as trusting your prexisting knowledge fully, such that it becomes second-nature. Something like the difference between "thinking" and "knowing".

Ah, but there you're talking about pre-existing knowledge.  I usually don't have to consciously think about proof techniques and so on, and can just sit down for three hours and groove with a textbook.  Don't even need to think about finding tricks; I just do it, it's easy, I move on.  That is the result of a reasonable amount of mathematical training.

I think I'm talking about something else, because it's completely untrained (e.g., it's popped up before I received any sort of formal training).  I sit down with a problem and take out a piece of scratch paper to start looking for avenues for so on, and it's like my mind is tickling me.  I often write down exactly the same thing over and over again, maybe twenty times all over both sides of a sheet of paper; I don't understand why it's significant.  I keep getting more and more frustrated, and probably angry, because I just can't stop writing the same damned thing down and I don't understand why it's important, but whenever I try to do anything else I get stuck thinking about exactly the same thing again.

I know it's right.  I don't know how I know it's right.  I don't even think it's right (I'd really rather try a different tack, and be methodical about it).  I can't see why it's right, but it's absolutely correct and the key to the problem--not something I built, but something handed to me.  Often, I've never seen that particular sort of problem before, nor a technique at all similar to the one I need, nor any sort of hint as to how I should proceed... I just know, without knowing how or why, and have to pull it out of the part of my brain that solved the problem for me while I wasn't watching.

It's a blessing and a curse.  On the one hand, it's precisely what one needs to excel at mathematics.  On the other hand, it made life difficult before I knew I needed to explain my answers and reasoning, rather than just saying "I wrote that because it's true."


(I'm debating this with you only because it's interesting.  If you'd prefer I didn't, I'll stop.)
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #83 on: March 03, 2010, 04:57:11 pm »

Well, brain scans have shown that women's brains are wired to use many different parts of their brain to solve problems (men's brains tend to just make one part work harder) so what you're saying is probably exactly that. Some part of your brain is being tapped to solve the problem and it's not a part that does things in a normal logical fashion. All it can do is hand you the answer and let your logical parts try to figure out how it got there.
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« Reply #84 on: March 03, 2010, 05:03:37 pm »

Well, brain scans have shown that women's brains are wired to use many different parts of their brain to solve problems (men's brains tend to just make one part work harder) so what you're saying is probably exactly that. Some part of your brain is being tapped to solve the problem and it's not a part that does things in a normal logical fashion. All it can do is hand you the answer and let your logical parts try to figure out how it got there.

Ah, that'd make a lot of sense.  Most of the time I just work the logic buttons pretty hard, but when I'm really problem-solving it seems like everything goes crazy.  Maybe this is why men often say women are so illogical...
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #85 on: March 03, 2010, 05:09:56 pm »

It certainly explains why women are considered more 'intuitive' then men. At least in general.
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Re: Food for the perpetually hungry
« Reply #86 on: March 03, 2010, 06:19:15 pm »

I must say, the more I hear the more intrigued I am by you Vector. *twiddles monocle*

Either way, a failure of introspection to... sounds like what is happening is that work is taking place on a much lower level, closer to the raw wetware.
Hmm, might you be a savant? Or just quirky and talented.
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« Reply #87 on: March 03, 2010, 06:51:12 pm »

So yeah, do you have a microwave and mini-fridge in your room? Because I'm about to combine...

1 Beef Ramen Pack
1 Slice White Onion, Minced
1/2 Pound Raw Ground Chuck
1 Tbs Soy Sauce
1 Cup Water

...in a microwave-safe bowl for three minutes.
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« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2010, 06:54:07 pm »

It certainly explains why women are considered more 'intuitive' then men. At least in general.

Hmmm, I see.  That's very interesting.


I must say, the more I hear the more intrigued I am by you Vector. *twiddles monocle*

Either way, a failure of introspection to... sounds like what is happening is that work is taking place on a much lower level, closer to the raw wetware.
Hmm, might you be a savant? Or just quirky and talented.

Nope, definitely not (I looked up the definition, and I don't have that particular brand of ability/disability).  I just have a bit of talent that occasionally shows up in unexpected ways, and some rather odd habits.  Having spent most of my life almost completely alone, I've had plenty of time to think things over and develop my skills  ;D


So yeah, do you have a microwave and mini-fridge in your room? Because I'm about to combine...

1 Beef Ramen Pack - I'm a vegetarian
1 Slice White Onion, Minced
1/2 Pound Raw Ground Chuck - I'm a vegetarian
1 Tbs Soy Sauce

Sorry, I can't really go for the onion-soy sauce stir fry.  I ate a mountain of pad thai for lunch, though.
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« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2010, 06:55:31 pm »

Wait, isn't Beef Ramen artificially flavored? Is there actually meat in it?
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