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[dakarian]

It's unconfirmed that the Head only had 2 cybrids.  While it makes a lot of sense for him to only have that, I'd rather not assume it.  There's also the idea that if the Head had 3 then 1 is either a Kill or a Muti.  However, that doesn't exactly help us:  Even if we kill a convert, it'll mean 2 cybrids, 2 town with either 1 survivor or just 2 vs 2. 

IF the head only had 2 cybrids, then it's Mylo with no real chance to break it, since no one has a kill (except perhaps a Hunter showing up). 

IF the head had 3 cybrids then it's either Mylo now if the last one kills (which will lead us to lylo), or Lylo now if one of the three was a Muti. 

A good bit to gamble on.  Myself, I believe our best shot is to try to hit the Head.  That'll eliminate many of the problems right there.  Right now we have 2 people who can be the head.  Of those two, I'm putting my stake in Mr.Person being that head.

[webadict]

Webadict and Dakarian ARE SCUM.

Vote Webadict.

EXTENSION.

Right, because this makes sense. You scanned me yesterday and dakarian the day before. That means dakarian would've had to been converted yesterday, and me the next.

I mean, you can't really be serious about that, Toony.

Oh, and 50 million extensions

10 trillion shortenings.

Active lurking scum.

[ToonyMan]

Unvote.  Oh wait, never mind.

Lynch Mr.Person.

[ToonyMan]

I was thinking upside down.

[dakarian]

My shorten request stands

[Vector]

Dakarian.

[Rysith]

1. is the only grounds the fact that we agreed on getting someone who wasn't even supposed to have lived past day 1 and who has been sidelining through most of this game lynched?

2. Though the scans don't prove that we aren't the converts, we KNOW that none of us are the head cybrid and that head MIGHT have one more convert to work with (I can fully see 2 or 3 possible convert attempts, especially if one end up performing a kill).  We've limited who that head is down to a very small few. 

Thus, perhaps we can go about chopping that head off before we start trying to find the others.

a) By the general logic that the main cybrid has 2-3 brains, one of which is a survivor, and the reasonable assumption that the main Cybrid has been attempting a conversion every night, they'd be out of brains now. If they weren't, it would mean that they got blocked one night, and it seems reasonable to assume that if someone guarded against cybrid replacement, they'd mention it. An out-of-brains main cybrid is probably the least-valuable cybrid, since they would effectively not have a power role.

b) You're now pressing for a quick-lynch on the basis that Mr.Person was supposed to be dead N1, even though the overseer only ordered him killed N2 and that doesn't seem to have done much of anything.

c) You are yourself a pretty reasonable candidate for Cybrid conversion, given your "confirmed"-ness, and especially this in light of a head cybrid who felt that he could buy a bit more time by using a "confirmed" townie to continue on a hunt for the now-not-nearly-as-useful head cybrid.

d) Nobody has died during the night yet, so your point about a conversion resulting in a kill is completely pointless.

e) There are five people known not to be the head: You, Webadict, Toonyman, Archangel, and Meph. While I'm honored that you don't think that I could be the head, it does put somewhat of a flaw in your implied "50% chance we hit the head" argument.

Dakarian, I'm fairly certain you're a cybrid convert, and at this point I'd rather take any cybrid down than chopping off more human heads trying to find the now-less-important original cybrid.

Oh, and I'll no longer need a replacement here, and extension.

[ToonyMan]

I want the head!

Not no convert.

[webadict]

Hahaha... Let's see, Rysith... Vector... Mr.Person...

Ah. The Overseer.

That makes 4. Doesn't it?



Seems like we'll need a secret weapon, won't we?

[GlyphGryph]

I've got someone who has agreed to replace for Rysith,

It looks like the extends have a few over the shortens anyways, so this is now going to end tomorrow night while I figure out what to do for the replace. No time to do much more than that right now.

[webadict]

I'll Extend, too.

Because you guys can't count.

[Mr.Person]

Hahaha... Let's see, Rysith... Vector... Mr.Person...

Ah. The Overseer.

That makes 4. Doesn't it?



Seems like we'll need a secret weapon, won't we?

Wait, does the Overseer have a vote? I assumed not, but whatever.

[dakarian]

e) There are five people known not to be the head: You, Webadict, Toonyman, Archangel, and Meph. While I'm honored that you don't think that I could be the head, it does put somewhat of a flaw in your implied "50% chance we hit the head" argument.

Dakarian, I'm fairly certain you're a cybrid convert, and at this point I'd rather take any cybrid down than chopping off more human heads trying to find the now-less-important original cybrid.

Oh, and I'll no longer need a replacement here, and extension.

Let's see if I get this right:

Total living players: 8 (the 'overseer' is an alternative account for one of the players so he's not a separate person.

Full set who's living:
Vector
Mr. Person
Rysith
Dakarian
ToonyMan
Archangel
Webadict
Mephansteras

Of them, Me, Webadict, Toonyman, Archangel, and Meph are not the head.  That leaves

Vector
Mr. Person
Rysith

As the possible head.  However, the ONLY people who is confirmed as not a Cybrid convert are Toonyman and Meph. 


Thus we have a 1 in 3 chance of killing the head, and a 2 in 6 chance of killing a cybrid if the person turns out to not be the head.  Meanwhile, going after the confirmed 'nonheads' gives a 2 in 6 chance flat.  Sort of makes sense to aim for the head given we'll lose if we miss.


Now here's a question, if you're sure you aren't the head, why are you not looking at Mr.Person or Vector to decide which one of them IS the head and the other MAY be a convert? 

Btw, head the least useful?  We need ANY one of them dead or else we're done.  Even if one of them is a hunter, then that's nothing more than just setting us up for another mylo.  The others are about as powerful as the head at this point, since rolecop isn't very useful at this point in the game (the most dangerous role is already publicly confirmed), the muta only becomes an issue at lylo, and the reprogramer literally has nothing to do at this point.

So no, the head is not much more dangerous than the others at this point, and if the head has another cybrid, he's MUCH more dangerous than the others. 

But no, you'd rather take a guess on me than try for the head that would be, if you were town, a 50/50 shot rather than a 2-in-6 33% shot.

And based on what scumtells.. you believing that the head isn't important?  Pretty strong scumtell there.


But bah, I'll deal with you tomorrow.


@everyone
There's a lot of potential info going around this day, but none of it will sync or even matter if we don't hit right today.  If we're going to lynch, I still believe we need to try for the head, which leaves only one of the 3 available.

The other option, for the gambling soul, is to No Lynch.  We have 8.  If the Cybrids have another convert, we lose.  If they don't, the worst they can do is send us to lylo with a kill.  Archangel can Guard Toonyman today and pull it off of him tomorrow, keeping him alive and safe.  It'll give us another shot at finding the head.


So the big question is: Do we feel lucky.  We'll do we, punks?

[webadict]

Bah, screw that.

Lynch Mr.Person.

[Archangel]

I was converted last night and became a Metagen. Vector, Mr.Person and Rysith are the Cybrids. I would appreciate it if I received protection tonight.