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Author Topic: Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Game has ended, Cybrid Victory! ToonyMan, Dakarian win!  (Read 49475 times)

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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #225 on: February 23, 2010, 10:34:40 am »

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Who needs the replacement, by the way?
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Uh.  Would've been nice to know earlier, doodabuddy.

Unvote.  Posting time is in the evening.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #226 on: February 23, 2010, 11:03:16 am »

GlyphGriff, how much time do we have before you shut down the thread without telling anyone?
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Re: Cybrid Mafia : INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE - Day 1! GO!
« Reply #227 on: February 23, 2010, 12:46:22 pm »

Because my job suddenly goes away between days? (I mean, it could, but it's really unlikely). I'm posting (and reading) as much as I can with the time I have. Do you have any other reasons for voting me, aside from not being able to be as active as some of our (assumedly younger or less-employed) players?

As it is, I can post around twice a day, once in the morning and once at night. If that's "active lurking" to you, I suppose I can't actually do anything other than active lurk, since I need to work and I need to sleep. And I only pushed Dakarian up to lynching levels if by lynching levels you mean "Three Votes", which is a long way from even a soft hammer.

So yeah. We can add "pushes lynch on players that are active but can't post often"1, "uses faulty logic"2, and "spreads WIFOM"3 to the complaints that I had yesterday. Mephansteras, can you excuse your behavior?

1 A common Scum practice, since active players are by far the largest threat and players that can't post often can't defend well.
2 Because you need to pull a false accusation from somewhere. Plus, a truly cleared townie wouldn't be less likely for the cybrids to grab in the night.
3 Because a town that you can get not to trust itself is a dead town, as we've shown many times.

Several problems with your argument:

1) Three votes was enough to get Dakarian lynched. The fact that it's not 'hammer' level is irrelevant. If he'd had three votes on him at the end of the day, he'd have been lynched. With how scattered the votes were yesterday it'd have been very easy for him to get lynched with 'only' three votes. If he hadn't been cleared, there is a very good chance he *would* have been lynched, and your vote would have been crucial to that.

2) "pushes lynch on players that are active but can't post often?". Does that mean that you suddenly get a pass from suspicion because you can only post a few times per game day? No, it really doesn't. And Active Lurking doesn't mean that you can't post too often, it means that you're active enough not to be truly lurking but not contributing enough to do more then be a presence. You only had a few posts, and all but the last where you vote on dakarian was either RVS or fluff. Looks a lot to me like someone sidelining and then jumping in with an opportunistic vote. So I'm suspicious of you. Nothing 'faulty' in that at all.

3) You're using 'WIFOM' wrong. WIFOM would be me trying to confuse people and make them second-guess themselves (which is what WIFOM truly means). All I did was point out that players who were cleared one day are not cleared the next. Hardly WIFOM. Unless you'd rather everyone conveniently *forget* that little fact so that your new cybrid buddy gets a pass for the rest of the game.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #228 on: February 23, 2010, 12:53:26 pm »

Vector, he posted in the thread specifically saying he was requesting a replacement, and then I said we needed a replacement. I'm surprised you missed it.

Oh, and by the way,
Roughly 36 hours remain in the day. Extensions by ToonyMan and Rysith.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #229 on: February 23, 2010, 12:58:02 pm »

A suggestion, Gryph. In my games I tend to give a specific time rather then a number of hours. For example, 'Day ends at ~5pm Pacific Wednesday' or something like that. It's usually easier for people to remember since they don't have to calculate when the day is going to end according to when you made the post, they can just do the offset from whenever it currently is to the stated time (and timezone).

Might cause less confusion.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #230 on: February 23, 2010, 01:23:16 pm »

I tried that in my last game but it caused confusion. :P

Right now its falling in the middle of the night, so it will actually probably end up closing around noon on Thursday (EST), even though thats like 12 hours longer than estimated by the hours alone, since I can't really get to the computer before then.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #231 on: February 23, 2010, 01:41:56 pm »

Myself, I've made sure the folks know that my deadlines are 'soft': the day WON"T end before my deadline, but if I'm not here and the deadline has passed then you can keep talking, but know it'll end the moment I get here.

That way, they know that after that specific time stated, it can end at any time. 


In any case.
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Hey man.  Wake up and stop lurking. What's your stance on the subject.


In fact, What's EVERYONE's stance on the Meph/Rysith issue?  Speak up now or we start lynching and replacing the lot of you!
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #232 on: February 23, 2010, 02:36:18 pm »

ToonyMan is scum.  He just is.  There are no roles at all that would prevent him from inspecting today... other than the cybrid, of course.  Therefore ToonyMan is a poorly chosen convert.  Therefore he needs death.

I don't particularly like Meph's position in the Meph vs Rysith argument.  Mephansteras is accusing Rysith very strongly (of being the main cybrid) but hasn't brought much evidence to the table, and is still relying on his rather flimsy day one case.  Rysith's position looks stronger.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #233 on: February 23, 2010, 03:00:31 pm »

MOD: A player can't use their day action when they use their minor ability night-action correct?

It said RIGHT in my PM.  I can't use my day action because of that.  If the MOD doesn't clear this up I can show you tomorrow and you can lynch me if I can't.
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #234 on: February 23, 2010, 03:01:02 pm »

Vector, he posted in the thread specifically saying he was requesting a replacement, and then I said we needed a replacement. I'm surprised you missed it.

Oh, and by the way,
Roughly 36 hours remain in the day. Extensions by ToonyMan and Rysith.


Wait wat.

I'm a moron.  No time now, but anyway Leafsnail.  I'll bring an argument with my vote when I have more than 5 minutes to post.
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Re: Cybrid Mafia : INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE - Day 1! GO!
« Reply #235 on: February 23, 2010, 03:02:36 pm »

Toonyman, why are you voting for Webadict? You spent most of yesterday bouncing around with little explanation, and I'd hate to see you do the same today even though we know you weren't a cybrid yesterday. It's not helpful. And can you really not inspect someone today?

It's his game play right now.  I got him for it in MSPA mafia (that's taboo to talk in an ongoing game but whatever).
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #236 on: February 23, 2010, 03:18:45 pm »

MOD: A player can't use their day action when they use their minor ability night-action correct?

It said RIGHT in my PM.  I can't use my day action because of that.  If the MOD doesn't clear this up I can show you tomorrow and you can lynch me if I can't.
So why did you think repairing dakarian's spaceship (which, as far as I can tell, has no effect on the game) would be more useful than publically announcing if someone is a cybrid?
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #237 on: February 23, 2010, 03:30:38 pm »

I thought it would be useful, Dakarian didn't say what it does though.  :V
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #238 on: February 23, 2010, 03:45:42 pm »

He said it did nothing earlier...

And aren't minor roles just for flavour?
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Re: [REPLACEMENT NEEDED] Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Day 2
« Reply #239 on: February 23, 2010, 03:52:31 pm »

Then that's stupid that I can't use my main ability.
Change the rules again GlyphGryph.
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