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[andrea]

hm. trying to remove a couple of faulty PDC ( had a fuel tank, spammed me with out of fuel messages), I accidentally removed 2 of my terraformer ships.
how do I use SM mode to give me some ships? last time I had to SM me a jump gate builder ( had jump gates on all jump points enabled, but it seems it doesn't work well with jump points already discovered at game start), I had to create a giant shipyard, then delete it after I finished building the ship (couldn't even find how to rush the project )

[Sheb]

Once SM mode is on, there is a Fast OOB button somewhere that let you spawn ships.

[andrea]

ah, thank you! found!

[Jacob/Lee]

Good god. Proxima Centauri A-I has a colony cost of 124.09. The surface temperature is 2917.6 degrees Celsius, or 5283.68 degrees Fahrenheit. The atmosphere is 95% carbon dioxide and 5% nitrogen. Orbital distance is 765,000 kilometers and the atmosphere is 24 times as dense as the Earth's.

[EuchreJack]

It's an effort to make things slightly more secure. Basically copying the Unix method of making you run things that make certain types of changes as root, or at least with specific privledges. It's just where in Unix and Linux, you grow up with that kind of clunkiness of "you approach a door, it's locked." "Use key on door." "Door opens." Up until recently, none of Microsoft's doors were locked, or if they were you were never expected to need to go through them anyway. These days they've started locking their doors, but users are still just assuming "Well, if it's locked, I guess I don't need to go in there."

I have no problem with keeping things from running without my permission, but my trying to run the program should both unlock and go through the door.  Bring back the auto-unlock feature!  I've never wanted to run a program as tiny Mario, I always wanna be big!

Good god. Proxima Centauri A-I has a colony cost of 124.09. The surface temperature is 2917.6 degrees Celsius, or 5283.68 degrees Fahrenheit. The atmosphere is 95% carbon dioxide and 5% nitrogen. Orbital distance is 765,000 kilometers and the atmosphere is 24 times as dense as the Earth's.

Just be thankful the colony cost is due to heat and pressure.  You can fix that stuff.  And without anything poisonous in the atmosphere, all you have to do is bleed CO2.  Oh, and add oxygen when you're down to colony cost 2, but that is kinda long-term...

[Sirus]

Aren't there limits, though? You can only pump so many anti-greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere to reduce temperature, unless one of the newer versions added additional ways to adjust planetary temps.

[Jacob/Lee]

Found another one. This one has a cost of 137.60, surface temperature of 3230.5 C and is 98% carbon dioxide/2% sulphur dioxide. 16.8 pressure, no hydrosphere.

[andrea]

well, removing 24 atm of CO2 is probably a good starting point, if he decides to cool the plant.
but I think that there is no limit to anti greenhouse gas.

[Karlito]

Isn't it the same 3 atm limit as greenhouse gas?

EDIT: Apparently not.

[andrea]

not sure. either way, he should have enough room to bring the planet to a point where infrastructure might work.

[Metalax]

You are still limited by the maximum atmospheric pressure of the species for how much anti-greenhouse gas you can add.

[forsaken1111]

Yeah, Vista and Windows 7 "Administrator" is crap.  Why can't I ALWAYS run as administrator?  It's my f&#@ing computer.

You can, actually... you just don't know how. The feature is there to prevent people who don't know any better from running any old program which makes direct changes to certain data structures and registries which could absolutely fuck your computer.

So really it's a good feature. Windows 7, if you know what you're doing, is quite admin-friendly. Far more so than XP, and I've used both for years professionally.

[Tarran]

You are still limited by the maximum atmospheric pressure of the species for how much anti-greenhouse gas you can add.

Still, Anti-GH gas is very potent and I don't think you'll ever, ever need to hit that limit when cooling down a planet. Just .6 Atm of Anti-GH gas brings Mercury in my game down to ~22 degrees C even with a 1.1 atm atmosphere. Assuming my calculations are correct and Jacob's hottest planet is at the Greenhouse limit, the base temperature should be about 1167.88333~ K. To reduce it to 295K (22C), he would need to bring it down to ~.25 of it's base temperature. Since Anti-GH gas reduces the Greenhouse effect pretty much directly, he needs but around .8 atms or so, correcting for the greenhouse effect from the amount of gas.

Isn't it the same 3 atm limit as greenhouse gas?

EDIT: Apparently not.

No, there's absolutely no gas limit. There's a limit on the Greenhouse EFFECT, at x3, but no gas limit. In addition, I don't think there's an anti-greenhouse effect limit.

[Jacob/Lee]

Welp, I'm done for. 3 ships with a thermal sig of 12800 and a speed of 15999 km/s, 2 ships with a sig of 5120 and 10 ships with a sig of 3520, all belonging to the Invaders just jumped in to Sol from the Ross 248 jump point. It was a decent run, only 13 years in.

[Scelly9]

Ok, I'm now going to start trying to play this game. Wish me luck.