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[Areyar]

Yay! Christmas Edition!
I'll just start afresh then. . . .  Maybe.

[Metalax]

5.56 can be updated without effecting your save and the database update (5.6) is mainly for a few new name themes and a couple of obscure bugfixes. Of course you can always do what I do and keep a labeled copy of the exe in your backup save directory to let you hop back to old campaigns.

Steve doesn't tend to do patch notes for bugfixes, you need to check back from the end of the buglist thread to see what he has commented on being fixed normally.

[forsaken1111]

ok... then does anyone know what changed?

[Flying Dice]

Had a whole day out of town with no internet, so I made quite a bit of progress. 

It is currently August of 2041, 26.5 years into my conventional start. I've nearly reached the point where I will begin to develop military vessels; I have put off design for several years in order to develop the capacity to build destroyers, cruisers, carriers, and fighters simultaneously, while also expanding my commercial and survey shipping, along with my industrial base and ground forces. At the current rate, the final wave of research should be completed in early January of 2042.

Spoiler: WARNING: MASSIVE INFODUMP (click to show/hide)

In terms of installations, Earth is in this condition:
-Commerical Spaceport L5
-Military Academy L4
-DSTS L20 (STR 8000)
-Maintenance Facilities capable of handling ships up to 43,400 tons
-Mass Driver x1
-13/42 shipyards; 7 Commerical, 6 Military. Largest C are a pair of 2-slipway yards with capacities of 250,000 tons, largest M is a 1-slipway yard which can produce ships of up to 122,000 tons.
-2000 Construction Factories
-1009 Ordinance Factories
-313 Fighter Factories
-500 Fuel Refineries
-Fuel in storage equal to 312,823,545 litres.
-1250 Mines
-80 A. Mines (part of current construction destined for a colony)
-125 Research Labs
-100 Financial Centers
-14 GFTFs

Population of Earth: 3029.27 Million (~3.03 Billion)
Current Racial Wealth: 720,234 units
Population of other colonies:
Mars: 10.92M, assorted facilities.
Aquarius (Epsilon Eridani): 1.3M, small numbers of CFs and automines, 2 DSTS.
New Boston (Alpha Centauri): 0.06M, ~100 infrastructure.
Bashere (London): 0.07M
Serenity (Moscow): 0.15M, 4 DSTS.
Vars. mining colonies and terraforming projects.

In honor of Commodore Jordan Sanderson, I'm using the WoT as one of my naming sources.

Current classes:

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Farshaw II class Colony Ship    60,000 tons     717 Crew     2347 BP      TCS 1200  TH 1500  EM 0
1250 km/s    JR 2-25(C)     Armour 1-136     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
MSP 24    Max Repair 400 MSP
Colonists 100000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 110   

JC60K Commercial Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 60000 tons    Distance 25k km     Squadron Size 2
Ion Engine E0.6 (10)    Power 150    Fuel Use 6%    Signature 150    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 450,000 Litres    Range 225.0 billion km   (2083 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


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River II class Freighter    45,500 tons     504 Crew     1004 BP      TCS 910  TH 2250  EM 0
2472 km/s     Armour 1-113     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
MSP 14    Max Repair 38 MSP
Cargo 25000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 50   

Ion Engine E0.6 (15)    Power 150    Fuel Use 6%    Signature 150    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 400,000 Litres    Range 263.7 billion km   (1234 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Oberon II class Gravitational Survey Vessel    1,000 tons     96 Crew     240 BP      TCS 20  TH 60  EM 0
3000 km/s    JR 1-50     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/2/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Life 8.26 Years     MSP 150    AFR 8%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 4    5YR 59    Max Repair 150 MSP

J1000(1-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 1000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 1
Ion Engine E6 (1)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 300.0 billion km   (1157 days at full power)

Improved Gravitational Sensors (1)   2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Merlin II class Geological Survey Vessel    1,000 tons     96 Crew     240 BP      TCS 20  TH 60  EM 0
3000 km/s    JR 1-50     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/2     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Life 8.26 Years     MSP 150    AFR 8%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 4    5YR 59    Max Repair 150 MSP

J1000(1-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 1000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 1
Ion Engine E6 (1)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 300.0 billion km   (1157 days at full power)

Improved Geological Sensors (1)   2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Monaco II class Troop Transport    20,000 tons     269 Crew     671 BP      TCS 400  TH 750  EM 0
1875 km/s     Armour 1-65     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 0
MSP 42    Max Repair 40 MSP
Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions    Cargo Handling Multiplier 50   

Ion Engine E0.6 (5)    Power 150    Fuel Use 6%    Signature 150    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres    Range 225.0 billion km   (1388 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Juliet class Construction Ship    70,600 tons     946 Crew     1727 BP      TCS 1412  TH 1500  EM 0
1062 km/s     Armour 1-152     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
MSP 15    Max Repair 25 MSP
Jump Gate Construction Ship: 180 days

Nuclear Pulse Engine E0.7 (15)    Power 100    Fuel Use 7%    Signature 100    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres    Range 218.5 billion km   (2380 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Genesis II class Terraformer    152,550 tons     1598 Crew     3799 BP      TCS 3051  TH 3000  EM 0
983 km/s     Armour 1-254     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
MSP 16    Max Repair 500 MSP
Terraformer: 5 module(s) producing 0.01 atm per annum

Ion Engine E0.6 (20)    Power 150    Fuel Use 6%    Signature 150    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres    Range 157.3 billion km   (1851 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes

However, active shipping is still mostly composed of older ships, many of which would be falling apart if not for their status as commercial vessels. In terms of ground forces, the TFW currently fields these units:
-1 Divison of MI (Fully staffed; deployed on Mars)
-2 Divisions of Assault Infantry (2^nd Division is fully staffed, 4^th requires a Major General; both deployed on Earth.
-1 Division of Heavy Assault (Incomplete staff; deployed on Earth)
-2 Brigades of Marines (Incomplete staff; deployed on Earth awaiting the completion of training for the rest of the 5^th Division prior to deployment to Serenity to guard against possible Heligendreuzi aggression.

The known galaxy. Current reports indicate that the Empire of Heligendreuz entered Sol via the Moscow chain, given that first contact was made with a JGC observed exiting the Sol-Moscow JP. Further investigation along the established network of Heligendreuzi JGs indicates that they traveled from beyond one of the three systems linked to Eta Cassiopeiae, though further gravitational survey of that chain will have to wait for the completion of the group of Oberon IIs currently under construction in the Danziger Werft.

[BishopX]

So I've got a question. I have two (identical) carriers. I want one to carry my fighter bombers, the other to carry my fighters, and both to carry my active sensor craft. Assuming both carriers are in the same fleet, is there a way to have the fighters automatically assigned to the correct mothership as they come off the production line?

[Sirus]

So what was added in the new update? Worth starting over for?

[Flying Dice]

So what was added in the new update? Worth starting over for?

A few minor database changes, so no, if you have any sort of investment in a game. There is a parallel patch with the bugfixes that doesn't erase savegames.

Oh, and here are my absolute crap designs that will possibly become a working navy in a few decades:

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Osiris class Fast Attack Craft    1,000 tons     86 Crew     185.4 BP      TCS 20  TH 132  EM 0
6600 km/s     Armour 3-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 6
Maint Life 10.66 Years     MSP 116    AFR 8%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 2    5YR 28    Max Repair 42 MSP

GB Ion Engine E72 (1)    Power 132    Fuel Use 720%    Signature 132    Armour 0    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 70,000 Litres    Range 17.5 billion km   (30 days at full power)

Gauss Cannon R2-100 (1x3)    Range 20,000km     TS: 6600 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 100%     RM 2    ROF 5        1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 10-8000 (1)    Max Range: 20,000 km   TS: 8000 km/s     50 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Active Search Sensor MR4-R1 (1)     GPS 42     Range 4.6m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Ballista class Missile Destroyer    11,000 tons     800 Crew     2003.99 BP      TCS 220  TH 660  EM 0
3000 km/s     Armour 7-44     Shields 0-0     Sensors 165/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 15     PPV 16
Maint Life 2.57 Years     MSP 626    AFR 176%    IFR 2.4%    1YR 133    5YR 1989    Max Repair 420 MSP
Magazine 407   

Ion Engine E6 (11)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 735,000 Litres    Range 200.5 billion km   (773 days at full power)

CIWS-160 (3x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Size 4 Missile Launcher (50% Reduction) (8)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 150
Missile Fire Control FC175-R40 (1)     Range 175.3m km    Resolution 40
Talon 4a (102)  Speed: 24,500 km/s   End: 27.4m    Range: 40.4m km   WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 220 / 132 / 66

Active Search Sensor MR292-R40 (1)     GPS 16800     Range 292.2m km    Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH15-165 (1)     Sensitivity 165     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  165m km

ECCM-1 (1)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Churchill class Point Defense Cruiser    20,000 tons     1745 Crew     3747.6 BP      TCS 400  TH 1200  EM 600
3000 km/s     Armour 5-65     Shields 20-300     Sensors 330/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 50     PPV 96
Maint Life 3.45 Years     MSP 2342    AFR 160%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 300    5YR 4501    Max Repair 1050 MSP

Ion Engine E6 (20)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,435,000 Litres    Range 215.3 billion km   (830 days at full power)
Gamma R300/12 Shields (10)   Total Fuel Cost  120 Litres per day

Single Gauss Cannon R2-100 Turret (12x3)    Range 20,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 2    ROF 5        1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S03 16-12000 (3)    Max Range: 32,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     69 37 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Active Search Sensor MR115-R1 (1)     GPS 1050     Range 115.5m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH30-330 (1)     Sensitivity 330     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  330m km

ECCM-1 (3)         ECM 10

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Havoc class Light Carrier    55,000 tons     3550 Crew     8453.8 BP      TCS 1100  TH 3300  EM 1800
3000 km/s     Armour 8-128     Shields 60-300     Sensors 550/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 54     PPV 160
Maint Life 1.99 Years     MSP 3306    AFR 1008%    IFR 14%    1YR 1109    5YR 16638    Max Repair 1050 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 8500 tons     Magazine 2250   

Ion Engine E6 (55)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 2,505,000 Litres    Range 136.6 billion km   (527 days at full power)
Gamma R300/12 Shields (30)   Total Fuel Cost  360 Litres per day

Single Gauss Cannon R2-100 Turret (20x3)    Range 20,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 2    ROF 5        1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S03 16-12000 (4)    Max Range: 32,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     69 37 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Rapier 6a (375)  Speed: 24,500 km/s   End: 7m    Range: 10.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 220 / 132 / 66

Active Search Sensor MR730-R40 (1)     GPS 42000     Range 730.5m km    Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH50-550 (1)     Sensitivity 550     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  550m km

ECM 10

Strike Group
2x Hummingbird Recon Fighter   Speed: 10526 km/s    Size: 3.8
32x Falcon Strikefighter   Speed: 8000 km/s    Size: 5

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

And yeah, that s-o-b is going to take took damn much effort to keep them from falling apart, but it is functional carrier that I put together while half asleep. Oh, and:

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Hummingbird class Recon Fighter    190 tons     6 Crew     51.9 BP      TCS 3.8  TH 40  EM 0
10526 km/s     Armour 1-2     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 9.93 Years     MSP 17    AFR 2%    IFR 0%    1YR 0    5YR 5    Max Repair 29 MSP

FTR Ion Engine E720 (1)    Power 39.6    Fuel Use 7200%    Signature 39.6    Armour 0    Exp 50%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 6.6 billion km   (7 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR25-R60 (1)     GPS 1764     Range 25.1m km    Resolution 60

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Falcon class Strikefighter    250 tons     6 Crew     68.7 BP      TCS 5  TH 40  EM 0
8000 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0.9
Maint Life 7.54 Years     MSP 17    AFR 5%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 1    5YR 8    Max Repair 42 MSP
Magazine 6   

FTR Ion Engine E720 (1)    Power 39.6    Fuel Use 7200%    Signature 39.6    Armour 0    Exp 50%
Fuel Capacity 30,000 Litres    Range 3.0 billion km   (4 days at full power)

Size 6 Box Launcher (1)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Missile Fire Control FC13-R1 (1)     Range 13.9m km    Resolution 1
Rapier 6a (1)  Speed: 24,500 km/s   End: 7m    Range: 10.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 220 / 132 / 66

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


[EuchreJack]

I like how your fighters only have a six-person crew.  They actually have the small crew that would be expected of fighters.

And they can be flown by a standard troubleshooter team!  Excellent!

[Flying Dice]

As usual, my tech grinding massively outpaces my production capabilities; I'll have M-P drive tech before my first carrier leaves the yards, most likely. It doesn't help that I'm the obsessive type of player who wants ships to be cutting edge, so I have to set certain levels of tech to hit before upgrading my fleet. That said, I'm glad I decided to test the PD strategy of masses of single Gauss turrets this time around, as it has several potential points in favor of it over laser PD.

[BishopX]

As usual, my tech grinding massively outpaces my production capabilities; I'll have M-P drive tech before my first carrier leaves the yards, most likely. It doesn't help that I'm the obsessive type of player who wants ships to be cutting edge, so I have to set certain levels of tech to hit before upgrading my fleet. That said, I'm glad I decided to test the PD strategy of masses of single Gauss turrets this time around, as it has several potential points in favor of it over laser PD.

I've found that the best way to keep your ships up to date is to build them current, send them through task force training and then refit to the most recent equipment before they head out. As long as you do this incrementally (including updating the shipyards), it works for just about everything.

The other possible reason your production is so behind is because you build massive ships.

[Flying Dice]

As usual, my tech grinding massively outpaces my production capabilities; I'll have M-P drive tech before my first carrier leaves the yards, most likely. It doesn't help that I'm the obsessive type of player who wants ships to be cutting edge, so I have to set certain levels of tech to hit before upgrading my fleet. That said, I'm glad I decided to test the PD strategy of masses of single Gauss turrets this time around, as it has several potential points in favor of it over laser PD.

I've found that the best way to keep your ships up to date is to build them current, send them through task force training and then refit to the most recent equipment before they head out. As long as you do this incrementally (including updating the shipyards), it works for just about everything.

The other possible reason your production is so behind is because you build massive ships.

Problem is, the refits usually cost more than building a new one, as I tend to have teched at least one level in pretty much every component by the time anything larger than a frigate gets out of the yards. I'm probably just going to continue to follow real-world models of military development and have the units I'm fielding be about a decade behind cutting-edge tech.

As for why my research is outpacing my production...

Currently, I've got 130 labs with 280 RP base production running at full capacity, and 25% of my construction factories are always dedicated to producing more labs. At the moment I'm researching 7 lower-middle techs (20k-30k required RP each) simultaneously, with full lab assignments for all but two of them, and at the current rate most of them will have completed by the time my 20,000 ton PD cruisers complete (laid down the moment they were designed), and all of them before my first 55,000 ton light carrier (laid down ~3 months after design). I've got my shipbuilding rate at 750 as well (the equivalent to my current research tech), so it isn't a matter of research being way ahead in terms of production modifier, just the sheer number of labs operating at full capacity, which isn't exactly something I want to curtail.

[Bremen]

Tech advancement will slow down rapidly, at least.

Also, 55,000 tons is a light carrier? That's bigger than my fleet carriers.

[BishopX]

As usual, my tech grinding massively outpaces my production capabilities; I'll have M-P drive tech before my first carrier leaves the yards, most likely. It doesn't help that I'm the obsessive type of player who wants ships to be cutting edge, so I have to set certain levels of tech to hit before upgrading my fleet. That said, I'm glad I decided to test the PD strategy of masses of single Gauss turrets this time around, as it has several potential points in favor of it over laser PD.

I've found that the best way to keep your ships up to date is to build them current, send them through task force training and then refit to the most recent equipment before they head out. As long as you do this incrementally (including updating the shipyards), it works for just about everything.

The other possible reason your production is so behind is because you build massive ships.

Problem is, the refits usually cost more than building a new one, as I tend to have teched at least one level in pretty much every component by the time anything larger than a frigate gets out of the yards. I'm probably just going to continue to follow real-world models of military development and have the units I'm fielding be about a decade behind cutting-edge tech.

As for why my research is outpacing my production...

Currently, I've got 130 labs with 280 RP base production running at full capacity, and 25% of my construction factories are always dedicated to producing more labs. At the moment I'm researching 7 lower-middle techs (20k-30k required RP each) simultaneously, with full lab assignments for all but two of them, and at the current rate most of them will have completed by the time my 20,000 ton PD cruisers complete (laid down the moment they were designed), and all of them before my first 55,000 ton light carrier (laid down ~3 months after design). I've got my shipbuilding rate at 750 as well (the equivalent to my current research tech), so it isn't a matter of research being way ahead in terms of production modifier, just the sheer number of labs operating at full capacity, which isn't exactly something I want to curtail.

I think the central problem is that your ships are MASSIVE. My fleet carrier is 8,000 tons, by PD destroyers are 4,800 and my missle cruisers are 7,000. In terms of throw weight your ships are slightly more effecient per weight, with the exception of the my carrier, which has 4,000 ton hanger space in an 8,000 ton ship. From my point of view, most of my ability to project force comes from my carrier fleet, everything else protects the carrrier (or hunts star swarm, although I'm still working on that). If you used smaller ships, it would be easier to keep them current.

[Flying Dice]

As usual, my tech grinding massively outpaces my production capabilities; I'll have M-P drive tech before my first carrier leaves the yards, most likely. It doesn't help that I'm the obsessive type of player who wants ships to be cutting edge, so I have to set certain levels of tech to hit before upgrading my fleet. That said, I'm glad I decided to test the PD strategy of masses of single Gauss turrets this time around, as it has several potential points in favor of it over laser PD.

I've found that the best way to keep your ships up to date is to build them current, send them through task force training and then refit to the most recent equipment before they head out. As long as you do this incrementally (including updating the shipyards), it works for just about everything.

The other possible reason your production is so behind is because you build massive ships.

Problem is, the refits usually cost more than building a new one, as I tend to have teched at least one level in pretty much every component by the time anything larger than a frigate gets out of the yards. I'm probably just going to continue to follow real-world models of military development and have the units I'm fielding be about a decade behind cutting-edge tech.

As for why my research is outpacing my production...

Currently, I've got 130 labs with 280 RP base production running at full capacity, and 25% of my construction factories are always dedicated to producing more labs. At the moment I'm researching 7 lower-middle techs (20k-30k required RP each) simultaneously, with full lab assignments for all but two of them, and at the current rate most of them will have completed by the time my 20,000 ton PD cruisers complete (laid down the moment they were designed), and all of them before my first 55,000 ton light carrier (laid down ~3 months after design). I've got my shipbuilding rate at 750 as well (the equivalent to my current research tech), so it isn't a matter of research being way ahead in terms of production modifier, just the sheer number of labs operating at full capacity, which isn't exactly something I want to curtail.

I think the central problem is that your ships are MASSIVE. My fleet carrier is 8,000 tons, by PD destroyers are 4,800 and my missle cruisers are 7,000. In terms of throw weight your ships are slightly more effecient per weight, with the exception of the my carrier, which has 4,000 ton hanger space in an 8,000 ton ship. From my point of view, most of my ability to project force comes from my carrier fleet, everything else protects the carrrier (or hunts star swarm, although I'm still working on that). If you used smaller ships, it would be easier to keep them current.

That is true, and typically my early military mostly consists of frigates and destroyers, but I've noticed an unfortunate pattern: small, low-tech ships tend to get pounded into scrap when up against pretty much anything else, particularly if it is something that can outrun them (aka Precursors, or if the RNG really hates me, Star Swarm). The only effective way I've found to take down Precursors or NPR fleets that outmass me while still at lowish tech (Ion drives, etc.) is to build stuff heavy enough to take hits without popping.

 Ultimately, I think what will end up happening is that my ships are going to cost quite a bit to keep them functioning, but they'll provide me with a force that can clear Precursors without losing most of their number. I've tried the small and fast route, and the only thing that has going for it is ease of production. That said, most of the problems with larger ships (specifically, my researchers outpacing production) will go away as I get into higher techs that will take years to complete, rather than months.

Out of curiosity, what general tech level are you at in the game you were referencing? I tend to go with the Frankenstein approach to early ships (if you can't fit what you need in reasonable hulls, build them larger) because it does increase survivability against technologically superior forces, in my experience.

[BishopX]

My first generation ships were roughly where you seem to be:

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Invincible class Carrier    8,000 tons     367 Crew     1150.2 BP      TCS 160  TH 90  EM 0
1125 km/s     Armour 3-35     Shields 0-0     Sensors 12/12/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 0
Maint Life 3.3 Years     MSP 629    AFR 73%    IFR 1%    1YR 87    5YR 1308    Max Repair 150 MSP
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 4000 tons     Magazine 300   

M Ion Engine E6 (3)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 30    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 200,000 Litres    Range 75.0 billion km   (771 days at full power)

Dagger Size 10 Anti-ship Missile (30)  Speed: 19,500 km/s   End: 12.8m    Range: 15m km   WH: 9    Size: 10    TH: 188 / 113 / 56

Active Search Sensor MR50-R100 (1)     GPS 8400     Range 50.4m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km

Strike Group
2x Little Crow  Fighter-Scout   Speed: 6315 km/s    Size: 5.7
14x Whitworth II Fighter-bomber   Speed: 10816 km/s    Size: 4.9

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Broadsword class Destroyer Escort    5,000 tons     562 Crew     828 BP      TCS 100  TH 180  EM 0
3600 km/s     Armour 2-26     Shields 0-0     Sensors 12/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 12     PPV 33.24
Maint Life 2.64 Years     MSP 207    AFR 100%    IFR 1.4%    1YR 42    5YR 630    Max Repair 115 MSP

M Ion Engine E6 (6)    Power 60    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 30    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 60.0 billion km   (192 days at full power)

Triple 10cm C3 Visible Light Laser Turret (3x3)    Range 60,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 9-9     RM 2    ROF 5        3 3 2 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S08 64-12000 (1)    Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 37 30 22
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 (3)     Total Power Output 27    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Swarm Search Sensor MR7-R8 (1)     GPS 336     Range 7.1m km    Resolution 8
Active Search Sensor MR1-R1 (1)     GPS 21     Range 1.7m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Whitworth class Fighter-bomber    245 tons     2 Crew     34.7 BP      TCS 4.9  TH 18  EM 0
7346 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 49%    IFR 0.7%    1YR 2    5YR 36    Max Repair 9 MSP
Magazine 20   

FTR Ion Engine E600 (1)    Power 36    Fuel Use 6000%    Signature 18    Armour 0    Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 5,000 Litres    Range 0.6 billion km   (23 hours at full power)

Size 10 Box Launcher (2)    Missile Size 10    Hangar Reload 75 minutes    MF Reload 12.5 hours
Missile Fire Control FC11-R100 (1)     Range 11.3m km    Resolution 100
Dagger Size 10 Anti-ship Missile (2)  Speed: 19,500 km/s   End: 12.8m    Range: 15m km   WH: 9    Size: 10    TH: 188 / 113 / 56

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Little Crow  class Fighter-Scout    285 tons     7 Crew     101.5 BP      TCS 5.7  TH 18  EM 0
6315 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 57%    IFR 0.8%    1YR 28    5YR 421    Max Repair 84 MSP

FTR Ion Engine E600 (1)    Power 36    Fuel Use 6000%    Signature 18    Armour 0    Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 5,000 Litres    Range 0.5 billion km   (23 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR50-R100 (1)     GPS 8400     Range 50.4m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


Here's current 3rd generation (aside from the carriers which haven't been upgraded):

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Invincible II class Carrier    8,100 tons     378 Crew     1284 BP      TCS 162  TH 120  EM 0
1481 km/s     Armour 3-35     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 0
Maint Life 5.35 Years     MSP 694    AFR 74%    IFR 1%    1YR 41    5YR 610    Max Repair 150 MSP
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 4000 tons     Magazine 300   

Magneto-plasma Drive E6 (3)    Power 80    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 550,000 Litres    Range 203.6 billion km   (1591 days at full power)

Dagger 2.10 ASM (30)  Speed: 27,600 km/s   End: 13.6m    Range: 22.5m km   WH: 9    Size: 10    TH: 331 / 198 / 99
CY 1-5 ASM (3)  Speed: 40,000 km/s   End: 9m    Range: 21.6m km   WH: 9    Size: 5    TH: 253 / 152 / 76

Swarm Search Sensor MR7-R8 (1)     GPS 336     Range 7.1m km    Resolution 8
Active Search Sensor MR1-R1 (1)     GPS 21     Range 1.7m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor MR69-R100 (1)     GPS 6300     Range 69.3m km    Resolution 100[/code]

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Orpheus class Fighter    245 tons     2 Crew     43.5 BP      TCS 4.9  TH 26.5  EM 0
10816 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 49%    IFR 0.7%    1YR 2    5YR 33    Max Repair 13 MSP
Magazine 20   

FTR Magneto-plasma Drive E720 (1)    Power 52.8    Fuel Use 7200%    Signature 26.4    Armour 0    Exp 50%
Fuel Capacity 5,000 Litres    Range 0.5 billion km   (13 hours at full power)

Size 5 Box Launcher (4)    Missile Size 5    Hangar Reload 37.5 minutes    MF Reload 6.2 hours
Orpheus FC FC26-R50 (1)     Range 26.1m km    Resolution 50
CY 1-5 ASM (3)  Speed: 40,000 km/s   End: 9m    Range: 21.6m km   WH: 9    Size: 5    TH: 253 / 152 / 76

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

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Broadsword IIb class Destroyer Escort    4,800 tons     541 Crew     985 BP      TCS 96  TH 200  EM 0
4166 km/s     Armour 3-25     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 13     PPV 33.24
Maint Life 4.18 Years     MSP 385    AFR 61%    IFR 0.9%    1YR 35    5YR 529    Max Repair 115 MSP

Magneto-plasma Drive E6 (5)    Power 80    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 62.5 billion km   (173 days at full power)

Triple 10cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser Turret (3x3)    Range 90,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 9-9     RM 3    ROF 5        3 3 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S08 64-12000 (1)    Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     25 22 21 18 16 14 12 10 8 6
Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 30    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR6-R1 (1)     GPS 63     Range 6.9m km    Resolution 1
Swarm Search Sensor MR24-R16 (1)     GPS 896     Range 24.6m km    Resolution 16

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Warrior class Cruiser    7,000 tons     727 Crew     1301 BP      TCS 140  TH 200  EM 600
2857 km/s     Armour 1-32     Shields 20-375     Sensors 12/12/0/0     Damage Control Rating 17     PPV 37.16
Maint Life 7.57 Years     MSP 871    AFR 52%    IFR 0.7%    1YR 27    5YR 401    Max Repair 115 MSP
Magazine 385   

Magneto-plasma Drive E6 (5)    Power 80    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 42.9 billion km   (173 days at full power)
Delta R375/12.5 Shields (8)   Total Fuel Cost  100 Litres per day

Triple 10cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser Turret (2x3)    Range 90,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 9-9     RM 3    ROF 5        3 3 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S08 64-12000 (1)    Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 37 30 22
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 (2)     Total Power Output 18    Armour 0    Exp 5%

AMM Launcher (5)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Size 5 Missile Launcher (50% Reduction) (4)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 190
AMM Fire Control FC9-R1 (1)     Range 9.2m km    Resolution 1
Fighter Missile Fire Control FC32-R140 (1)     Range 32.8m km    Resolution 140
Flash 1 AMM (120)  Speed: 40,400 km/s   End: 0.7m    Range: 1.8m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 390 / 234 / 117
CY 1-5 ASM (52)  Speed: 40,000 km/s   End: 9m    Range: 21.6m km   WH: 9    Size: 5    TH: 253 / 152 / 76

Active Search Sensor MR6-R1 (1)     GPS 63     Range 6.9m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor MR92-R100 (1)     GPS 8400     Range 92.4m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

So far I'm 4-2 versus the precursors, no NPR combat yet.