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Randall Octagonapus

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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2009, 05:05:16 pm »

Find a dwarf that has no friends. Then lock him deep underground. Have a tantrum spiral kill all of your other dwarves. Then unlock the last dwarf and try to survive.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2009, 07:35:20 am »

Find a dwarf that has no friends. Then lock him deep underground. Have a tantrum spiral kill all of your other dwarves. Then unlock the last dwarf and try to survive.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2009, 07:54:04 pm »

Flood your fortress with water, very slowly. Be sure to have a lever attached to a system to drain it (for adventure mode). By doing this, you get to slowly watch as one by one dwarves get trapped in rooms by the slowly rising water, and those which do make it out (probably 90% or so, depending on fort construction and who is awake at the time) die of hunger/thirst or from a tantrul spiral from the trapped dwarves dieing.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2009, 07:59:32 pm »

Not too flashy, but locking everyone in their bedrooms would seem to work well.
Oh. And you say you have 37 champions? Lock the barracks door, whoever's in their should die after a while, thus creating a crazy tantrum spiral (since military dwarves socialize a lot and have tons of friends) where your champions go berserk and massacre your non-military population. Then they kill each other. Very efficient.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2009, 08:07:31 pm »

Give goblins dragonfire.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2009, 08:44:26 pm »

Hmmm, all these suggestions are fantastic (I'm actually using the locked-door method on my Tax Collector as we speak for killing my fourth Armorer in a row for being unable to come up with 3 fox leather items) but it's not so much that I want to commit "fortress suicide" as I want something nasty to come in and beat the crap out of my army (now 41 champions). I actually think the dragonfire tag on goblins might make things much more interesting...machine-gun-marksdwarves against dozens of fire-breathing goblins...I think there is Fun in the making...
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Speaking of which, how is fire in the new version?
out of personal experience, where a dwarf was set alight by a magmaman, ran up 150 flights of stairs, and divebombed into the booze stockpile, I'd have to say fire is the same as always.

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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2009, 09:10:07 pm »

Give goblins dragonfire.
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give dragons goblin fire.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2009, 09:16:01 pm »

I hardly think dragons could be helped by farting and lighting matches in an attempt to jet themselves over my walls...
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Speaking of which, how is fire in the new version?
out of personal experience, where a dwarf was set alight by a magmaman, ran up 150 flights of stairs, and divebombed into the booze stockpile, I'd have to say fire is the same as always.

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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2009, 09:26:07 pm »

Attempt to sap your entire fortress at once.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2009, 09:47:24 pm »

I hardly think dragons could be helped by farting and lighting matches in an attempt to jet themselves over my walls...
no, instead of breathing fire, they breathe goblins.
So when they shoot the fire they are actually generating goblins.
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Randall Octagonapus

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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 10:11:24 pm »

I hardly think dragons could be helped by farting and lighting matches in an attempt to jet themselves over my walls...
no, instead of breathing fire, they breathe goblins.
So when they shoot the fire they are actually generating goblins.

In the next version i think that there are solid breathe attacks so it might be possible
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 10:19:53 pm »

Mod goblins to have speed of 1. And the ability to fly, and breathe underwater. Game over.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2009, 10:39:22 pm »

For those building destroyer beasts out there, create isolated pockets of magma in various places around your fortress that are only held back by forbidden doors and the like. Make sure the doors are not magma proof so even a single wayward thief can trigger the magma torrent.

Make as many barrels of booze as you can, and fill the hallways with them. Now make the invaders breath fire, like a dragon.

Make your stand in the largest room your have in your fortress. Let them come to you.

Scatter spike traps around your fortress. When the enemies come, trigger those traps as often as possible and hope for fun.

For an extra challenge, start off the defense of your fortress by lining up your military dwarves in full shining regalia in front of your fortress... and then activate spike traps that were (in)conveniently placed under their designated posts.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2009, 11:13:33 pm »

1. Swap the goblins with dragons in the raws.
2. Wait for seige to come.
3. Prepare your fortress.
4. Profit??

If your champions are better than that, which they most likely are, copy this over the goblins in the raws:

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Basically, if it works, you should have however many squads of nearly indestructible, teleporting, fire-breathing, monsters. Almost as scary as a river full of hippocarpephants.
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Re: A Curious (and unlikely) Problem
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2009, 11:39:41 pm »

The key is to gradually take away amenities from your dwarves so they get grumpier and grumpier.

1) Free all beds so that no one has their own room.
2) Remove nice statues and furniture.
3) Destroy some masterpiece items and engravings.
4) Forbid all booze and make them drink water.
5) Take away all prepared meals.
6) Block access to all fresh water and make them drink from stagnant dirty pools.
7) Take away all food and make them hunt for vermin for food.

Note the point at which the majority of your fortress cracks. Have fun!
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