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[Mr.Person]

dorf, you went an entire post without saying who you think is scum. You listed options, you hinted at your thoughts, you threw attacks, you flung out a few FoS's, and I think you said who isn't scum, but you have yet to say who you think is scum.

Actually, I think he made it quite clear he thinks I'm scum.

No, he did not. He said you might be scum, but he also said you might not be.

[dorf]

Btw Zai, why did you write all that text, if not to deter us from lynching you?

Mr.Person: I did vote for Zai, didn't I?

[Zai]

Btw Zai, why did you write all that text, if not to deter us from lynching you?

...To get you to lynch me? I think that was pretty obvious. o,0

Second one was originally intended to be a list of patterns for town to use/look for, but it kind of evolved from there.

[Leafsnail]

I think you are overreacting. Seriously. You are getting all defensive, yet I haven't (as you pointed out) really gathered any proof, because, again, I haven't really attacked you.

No, dorf.  I am not being defensive.  I am accusing you of being scum for your constant refusal to take me on properly.

I say "really", because I did put the FoS on you. But I didn't vote for you, because I didn't think you were scum. In my post I simply stated what I thought of your content, and how I interpreted it.
Yes, I've said you might be scum. But I also said you might not be. Hence, my uncertainty about you.

FoS = "I think you might be scum" or at least "You're more likely to be scum".  So why aren't you asking me ANYTHING about it?  If you're unsure, why aren't you trying to establish whether I am or not?

    * If you are scum, you will vote for a townie, any townie. This could mean that Zai is, in fact, a townie.
    * If you are town, you will (try to the best of your suspicions) vote for scum. This could mean that Zai might actually be scum!

We all know this.  Writing this means absolutely nothing.

Nah, your suspicions are fine. They give me an opportunity to clear myself and that helps with narrowing down to real scum out there.

You are, most definately, scum.  Town wouldn't focus so damn hard on "clearing" themselves while not applying any pressure.

As for Zai... ugh... I'm not sure.  What I'm far more sure of, however, is that Dorf is scum.  Lynching a mafia member today is better than any elaborate plan Zai comes up with.

[dorf]

I don't know... Your replies seem exaggerated IMHO.

I don't know why you are convinced I'm scum just because I defended myself, when you attacked me. Wait, it bothers you because I didn't automatically attack you back? Only scum would have such a mentality.
I didn't attack you because I thought you were merely trying to induce conversation, like a true townie would.

After my first defensive post against your attack, you said that I was self-preservative and that that is scummy. Yet, I was only defending myself. If I were to attack you, you would've said that you were only looking for an explanation and that my attack was scummy. If I were to ignore you, you would've said I am scum, because I didn't defend myself.
So, really, there is no winning with you, from my perspective.

I must say... You have now convinced me of your scumdom. I didn't seen it before. But now, with all these comments that you made that you think I'm scum because I didn't attack you right back are silly.

I am accusing you of being scum for your constant refusal to take me on properly.
[...]
You are, most definately, scum.  Town wouldn't focus so damn hard on "clearing" themselves while not applying any pressure.

Seen here how you wanted to provoke an attack from me.
Well, if you wouldn't attack me so hard, I wouldn't try to defend myself so hard.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but you have just revealed that you are scum.
How do you answer these charges, scumlet Leafsnail?

The way things are going now, you'll get my next vote for sure.

[Leafsnail]

How do you answer these charges, scumlet Leafsnail?

What charges?  Yeah, you wrote my name in blue again.  Wow.  But what are you actually accusing me of?  Attacking you?  Trying to get a decent answer out of you?  If I am scum, vote me now.  Or at least explain why Zai is more scummy than me.

What bothers me is that you're attacking me, and have been doing so continuously, but WITHOUT APPLYING PRESSURE OR ASKING QUESTIONS.  You're just saying "Yeah, you might be scum", writing my name in blue a couple of times and then not following it up.

[ToonyMan]

FoS' are so scary.
Dorf, you say you have scum, but you're not voting them?

FAKE-EDIT:

Yeah.

[dorf]

This is the second time you haven't read a part of my post, Leafsnail.
I have now accused you of scumdom. I have already explained my reasons for voting for Zai. I have asked you questions, which you haven't answered.

I have voted for scum - Zai. I will vote for Leafsnail after Zai gets lynched.

[Leafsnail]

I read all of your post, and there's nothing there.  Nothing.  Just because I only quoted the relevant parts does not mean I haven't read your post.

And now you're lying.

[JanusTwoface]

Ok, I'll admit to lurking somewhat fierce for the past little while.  Basically, I put almost all of my online energy into Near-Mountainous and burnt out.  Sorry about that.  Anyways, here are my thoughts (starting from my previous post).

- ExKirby/his replacement is probably town, but keep an eye on him anyways.
- Messed up my FoS.  Should have been ExKirby rather than dorf.
- Way too much FoSing flying around.  Mostly from dorf.
- Pandarsenic, is your computer still broken?
- I don't think Zai likes me.
- Big fight between Leafsnail and dorf, especially for Day 1.
- Zai, do you still want to get lynched?

Unofficial vote count
Apostolic Nihilist - eduren
eduren - JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic - ExKirby
Zai - ToonyMan, dorf
dorf - Leafsnail, Mr.Person
Leafsnail - Pandarsenic

If I read this and the rules correctly, enough people are voting for a double lynch of Zai and dorf.  Is this a good thing?  Leafsnail and Mr.Person at least seem to think that dorf is scum and Zai wanted to get himself lynched.

For that matter, Zai, if you're not trying to get lynched could you please vote for someone else that won't so at least one person will know of your alignment should you survive.  (I realize that is a lot of conditionals.)  We already know your role, so you might as well use it.

[Pandarsenic]

Yes, but I'm on a family desktop. However, once I return to UCSB I will only have computerness available once per day.

Also, unvote Leafy, vote dorf.

Dorf, commit. Either he's scum or he isn't. Make up your mind.

[Zai]

- I don't think Zai likes me.

I laughed at this point, Janus.

I don't care if I get lynched; I'm pretty sure either I or the person I vote for will die tonight (though I have been sure of me being NKed in the past and wasn't) anyway.

I think Dorf is scum, but I've been sure of that before (in an ongoing game) when he wasn't, so it may just be a Dorf thing. I also think I may know why Dorf is continually spreading FoSes and votes among Leaf and I and it relates to his role. But if that's the case, he's probably town for giving "warnings".

[webadict]

Vote Count
Apostolic Nihilist - eduren [1]
eduren - JanusTwoface [1]
Pandarsenic - ExKirby [1]
Zai - ToonyMan, dorf [1]
dorf - Leafsnail, Pandarsenic [3]
JanusTwoface - Zai [1]

dorf has been lynched!

dorf was a Shielded Voter (town).

It is now Night.

Shielded Voter - All powers do not work on you. Your vote counts for nothing.

[webadict]

Zai has been killed!

Zai was a Neighborly Voter (town).

It is now Day.

Neighborly Voter - At the end of the Day, the person for whom you voted is given a message about your alignment.

[Zai]

...

._.