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[Leafsnail]

Well after web laid that out, I'll Unvote
 
Really Org what are you doing.

Wait, MagmaDeath, that's just as bad.

I'll await Org's response before considering changing my vote though.

[ExKirby]

IF Org goves a response.

[Leafsnail]

IF Org goves a response.

Org usually says something at least.  Give him time.

[MagmaDeath]

Well after web laid that out, I'll Unvote
 
Really Org what are you doing.

Wait, MagmaDeath, that's just as bad.

I'll await Org's response before considering changing my vote though.

Well, It makes sense.
 
Leaving the surviver/Exterminator alive would have been better then wasting a daykill on him.
 

[Leafsnail]

Yeah, but Neruz was pressing that point harder than Org.  The only thing Org had going for him that Neruz didn't was some votes against him.  Perhaps you were trying to prime him for an easy lynch?

[ExKirby]

Yet we all forget forsaken. Turst me, I think he is scum. I think all the reasoning is obvious. If he believed he wasn't a bomb, there was no point in killing him. If he was a bomb, why didn't he leave him and use him at lylo? That would have dropped the bomb risk from 11 townies against 4 scum to 1 town against 1 scum. He had no proof that there was an exterminator, I doubt there are any day cop roles, there was no Night 0, so that wraps it up neatly.

[dakarian]

@AFD

I  don't quite like the reasoning, but I can see the reasoning.  Meh.  Unvote

As far as Forsaken/Neruz, too much of the argument there is WIFOM.  Similar to josh in Bay 12, forsaken's action is a null tell.  He'll be more clear cut later on. 

On the other hand.

Jim why DID you ask me how I felt about web's vote on you?  What answer were you expecting?

[Leafsnail]

Similar to josh in Bay 12, forsaken's action is a null tell. 

Don't... remind... me...

Yet we all forget forsaken. Turst me, I think he is scum. I think all the reasoning is obvious. If he believed he wasn't a bomb, there was no point in killing him. If he was a bomb, why didn't he leave him and use him at lylo? That would have dropped the bomb risk from 11 townies against 4 scum to 1 town against 1 scum. He had no proof that there was an exterminator, I doubt there are any day cop roles, there was no Night 0, so that wraps it up neatly.

Well, a town dayvig should shoot early, while a scum dayvig will save it until lylo for an easy win.  I originally thought that Forsaken was being contradictory, but I probably woulda shot Pandar if I had a daykill.

[dakarian]

That's the wifom I'm talking about.  It's easy to come up with a reason for scum or town to do that.

Scum thinking Exterminator = Remove a role that will want the scum dead as much as getting the town dead.

Scum thinking survivor = confirm yourself as town

Town thinking Exterminator or Survivor = remove threat against the town.


There's too little there to read and it can go either way.  His future posts will clear up the matter well enough.

[forsaken1111]

forsaken1111: ExKirby, Neruz, Org, forsaken1111

I certainly did not vote for myself...

[JanusTwoface]

Um.  Wow.  That was a lot of posts to read though for only coming from two people.

My two cents:

- For now, I think forsaken is telling the truth and is a Human Mad Scientist.  To be honest, if I were a Human Mad Scientist, I would have done exactly the same thing.  I really wouldn't have thought about the deadman's bomb being a problem.  From there's he's been defending himself perhaps a little overmuch, but if you remember last time forsaken came under fire it was for not defending himself enough.  I think he's just overcompensating at this point rather than actually being scum.

- The whole back and forth between Forsaken and Neruz was kind of crazy.  It really makes me think that one of the two is scum.  Since I'm more sure about Forsaken's townieness than Neruz's, FoS Neruz for the time being.

- I know it's been said, but I'll reiterate FoS Org for doing what he usually does.  Bandwagoning without much depth to his posts that is.

- I think that Jim did overreact to Web's prodding.  Especially considering that they've played in games together before (IIRC) and this is Web's general day 1 modus operandi.  Another FoS to Jim.

Okay, since the day ends in about 3 hr 20 min, I'm going to go ahead and vote Neruz.  I will not be terribly saddened if Org manages to get himself lynched by not showing up to defend himself and if his defense is not adequate, I'll vote for him.  But Neruz is also high on my list of likely scum, thus the vote.

[forsaken1111]

From there's he's been defending himself perhaps a little overmuch, but if you remember last time forsaken came under fire it was for not defending himself enough.  I think he's just overcompensating at this point rather than actually being scum.

I can't win can I? 

[Org]

IF Org goves a response.

Org usually says something at least.  Give him time.

something

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Jim Groovester: A_Fey_Dwarf, dakarian
Neruz: JanusTwoFace, Kashyyk, forsaken1111
Org: Frelock, Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, MagmaDeath
forsaken1111: ExKirby, Neruz, Org
rickvoid: RedWarrior0


As always, let me know if you see issues.

You have ~3 hours before the day ends.

[forsaken1111]

Thanks Meph!