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Author Topic: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)  (Read 16316436 times)

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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161025 on: August 05, 2015, 12:46:07 pm »

IIRC, emulators are generally significantly slower than using the original console, so that probably has something to do with it.
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« Reply #161026 on: August 05, 2015, 12:49:51 pm »

Yeah, simulating hardware is actually a pretty big hit on performance. There's a reason it's almost impossible to use Higan on Accuracy Mode unless you have a beast of a machine by modern standards.
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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161027 on: August 05, 2015, 12:51:33 pm »

Not slower afaik, but you need to be able to run the emulator, the console its emulating, and anything running in the the background on the same cpu, while DF is not trying to run an entire system on top of your computer. Its trying to run a tiny dimension on FPS instead.
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It's known as the Oppai-Kaiju effect. The islands of Japan generate a sort anti-gravity field, which allows breasts to behave as if in microgravity. It's also what allows Godzilla and friends to become 50 stories tall, and lets ninjas run up the side of a skyscraper.

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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161028 on: August 05, 2015, 12:54:43 pm »

IIRC, emulators are generally significantly slower than using the original console, so that probably has something to do with it.
Not exactly? It's not so much that they're slower as they tend to be more resource intensive. It usually starts off taking something like 2-3x the resources to run at the same speed, and can sometimes get less as the coding involved gets better. The difference being, naturally, that PCs can get a lot more powerful than consoles tend to be able to manage. Add in simple stuff like frame skipping or general acceleration, and you get emulators that are significantly faster than the original console, just chewing up more hardware power.

Just about anything below PS2 level, iirc, can generally manage to go faster than the original machine via emulator, if your hardware can keep up with it. PS2+ stuff, too, if your rig is really beefy.

Now, if your machine can't match the emulator's requirements... yeah, that can end up running slower than the original console, obviously. It's just not a necessary thing, heh.

And mostly ninja'd, but eh.
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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161029 on: August 05, 2015, 12:58:14 pm »

Yeah emulators have to simulate (or "emulate") the architecture in question.  That can be inefficient.  Example...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAsihgpbpsc

Also I seem to remember (a long time ago) getting more slowdowns in an NES emulator than in SNES9X.  A lot depends on the architecture in question I think.
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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161030 on: August 05, 2015, 02:57:00 pm »

But when the power is available emulators are absolutely gr8.
Run in higher resolutions, better frame rates, better visual effects, savestates... Oh yes that's some good stuff.
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« Reply #161031 on: August 05, 2015, 04:06:03 pm »

Happy 40th Birthday ThreeToe! ♫♪ \o/
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« Reply #161032 on: August 05, 2015, 04:08:01 pm »

Someone on the forum older than me, and it's ThreeToe!  Happy birthday :D
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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161033 on: August 05, 2015, 04:11:01 pm »

Happy birthday, ThreeToe! :D
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« Reply #161034 on: August 05, 2015, 04:22:48 pm »

Happy 40th Birthday ThreeToe! ♫♪ \o/
How do you know these things  :o

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« Reply #161035 on: August 05, 2015, 04:32:55 pm »

Perhaps we should write a birthday story for ThreeToe 8)
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« Reply #161036 on: August 05, 2015, 04:33:06 pm »

Yeah, happy cakeday TT. May you have at least another forty before you kick the bucket :3
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« Reply #161037 on: August 05, 2015, 04:42:31 pm »

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Re: [Poi] The deadly game of poi (Happy thread? Poi! B.. Baka!)
« Reply #161038 on: August 05, 2015, 04:45:28 pm »

Yeah, happy cakeday TT. May you have at least another forty before you kick the bucket :3
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« Reply #161039 on: August 05, 2015, 05:55:50 pm »

Sky plans on showing a documentary on Scientology that, from the sounds of things, is highly critical of it.

Watching them flail about trying to stop it's going to be brilliant.
The british channel, right? Not Sky from here.
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It's known as the Oppai-Kaiju effect. The islands of Japan generate a sort anti-gravity field, which allows breasts to behave as if in microgravity. It's also what allows Godzilla and friends to become 50 stories tall, and lets ninjas run up the side of a skyscraper.
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