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[ggamer]

If I do something amazing, I imagine the first twenty five years of my brain will be the most boring.

Most of it would either be staring at loading screens, anime, or schoolwork.

[miauw62]

Holy shit when did this turn into the sad thread.

TIME FOR HAPPIES~
I went to a sort of party today and it was fun. Talked with a friend and spent a few euros playing a racing game (because somebody challenged me)

[MagmaMcFry]

Goddamnit this guy is good. I wish I had experienced Harry Potter like he did.

[Lightningfalcon]

More or less, yes. I have no way to tell, and except the anthropic principle there's no real reason for me to be me, for me to see out of the eyes that I currently do, and not one of the other 100 billion humans who have ever lived.

Does this mean that all the rest of us are actually offshoots of this program? 

Goddamnit this guy is good. I wish I had experienced Harry Potter like he did.

I've read about half of that.  And yes, yes he is good. 

[Furtuka]

Yeah. I recommend looking at his blog on Avatar The Last Airbender after you finish the Harry Potter one.

[Descan]

@Thunderbird: From my perspective, yes that would be the implication. I have no way of knowing if you are a p-zombie or an actual consciousness with experiences.

Obviously, if you are an actual consciousness, you know for sure. But you have no way of giving me absolute proof of it, same as I have no way of proving that I am an actual consciousness.

It'd be like trying to describe colour to a blind man.

[alway]

@Thunderbird: From my perspective, yes that would be the implication. I have no way of knowing if you are a p-zombie or an actual consciousness with experiences.

Obviously, if you are an actual consciousness, you know for sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie#Responses

Dennett argues that "when philosophers claim that zombies are conceivable, they invariably underestimate the task of conception (or imagination), and end up imagining something that violates their own definition".[3][4] He coined the term zimboes (p-zombies that have second-order beliefs) to argue that the idea of a p-zombie is incoherent;[11] "Zimboes thinkZ they are conscious, thinkZ they have qualia, thinkZ they suffer pains – they are just 'wrong' (according to this lamentable tradition), in ways that neither they nor we could ever discover!".[4] Under (reductive) physicalism, one is inclined to believe either that anyone including oneself might be a zombie, or that no one can be a zombie – following from the assertion that one's own conviction about being, or not being a zombie is (just) a product of the physical world and is therefore no different from anyone else's. P-zombies in an observed world would be indistinguishable from the observer, even hypothetically (when the observer makes no assumptions regarding the validity of their convictions). Furthermore, when concept of self is deemed to correspond to physical reality alone (reductive physicalism), philosophical zombies are denied by definition. When a distinction is made in one's mind between a hypothetical zombie and oneself (assumed not to be a zombie), the hypothetical zombie, being a subset of the concept of oneself, must entail a deficit in observables (cognitive systems), a "seductive error"[4] contradicting the original definition of a zombie

tldr; p-zeds is a silly conjecture

Now, if you wanted a smooth transition from meatspace to some other form of brain, the best method would be to integrate it into your existing brain, with sufficient capacity for capability to shift entirely into it. Over time, it would become as much a part of you as the meatspace brain, becoming the primary substrate as the brain slowly became less necessary [which is already how the brain works; new neurons are introduced and take over the job of aging/less useful ones; and it's also how the brain heals after injury].

[Descan]

That's more or less the plan I was talking about.

But anyway, what I said was mostly unrelated to brain-uploading. Just saying I have no way of knowing  if you have a consciousness in the same manner I do, and vice versa, and no way to convince or even discuss it meaningfully because of the "can't describe colour without using colour" issue.

Edit: To clarify, saying P-Zombie was a poor choice.

[Tiruin]

Goddamnit this guy is good. I wish I had experienced Harry Potter like he did.

...I wholly approve. By that, I mean I experienced it mostly like he did-without the swearing. xD

[Helgoland]

My happy: I shall from now on insult people's political views as Necrotizing fasciitis.
(Warning, picture is a bit NSFW)

[scrdest]

"can't describe colour without using colour" issue.

Wavelength?

[Dutchling]

"can't describe colour without using colour" issue.

Wavelength?

AFAIK colour is not a property of wavelengths. It's just how your brain interprets said wavelengths.

[scrdest]

"can't describe colour without using colour" issue.

Wavelength?

AFAIK colour is not a property of wavelengths. It's just how your brain interprets said wavelengths.

Advanced neuroscience, then?

[Graknorke]

You would probably do better explaining how everyone's perception of the universe is just an illusion based on the sensory information they receive; and so the blue you see is meaningless in any wider context than your own mental fabrication.

[LordSlowpoke]

did i post this here yet

in other news i might have finally found a good, universal answer to "why the baked fucksticks should i wake up today"

i'm not telling you a thing though. get your own damn reasons