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Author Topic: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)  (Read 16178633 times)

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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46155 on: April 05, 2011, 11:54:41 am »

You're a mathemagician, right? You have three coins. You flip them, and you have several possible results. (H is heads, T is tails) I did this lab in math countless times for probability. Every single time, there has been at least one congruent set.

HHH
HHT
HTH
THH
TTH
THT
HTT
TTT
Yeah, but if you, say, were running a large study where people reported their results and they were consistently reporting getting a lot of HHH and no TTT... then you might start to wonder if something's up.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46156 on: April 05, 2011, 12:08:31 pm »

Looking into starting college.



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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46157 on: April 05, 2011, 12:39:48 pm »

You're a mathemagician, right? You have three coins. You flip them, and you have several possible results. (H is heads, T is tails) I did this lab in math countless times for probability. Every single time, there has been at least one congruent set.

HHH
HHT
HTH
THH
TTH
THT
HTT
TTT

EDIT EDIT: I am raging against the politically correct machine.

Your attempting to use my math skills to push your argument just makes this that much sweeter, and that much sadder.  "You're supposed to be a mathemagician, right?"  Yeah.  I am a woman, and I am good at math, and I have a basic understanding of probability that implies we aren't seeing random coin flips here--unless you really think execs flip fair coins and end up their casts.  Hint: how many times have you seen a wheelchair-ridden main character?  How many times have you seen a black female main character, or a gay main character, or a transsexual main character?  How many times have you seen a disabled, female, transsexual, poor, gay person of color on the screen?  What--never?  But I thought we were working with fair coins!  Shouldn't I see one of those for every able-bodied (etc.) white man?  I mean, surely we've had enough trial runs by now.

Obviously, the world isn't fair.  And yeah, it's not fun trying to make it more fair, but let me tell you, man--it's not fun to spend a lot of your life being treated as little more than an object, and it's also not fun to have those men who treat me like a person say "Well, but you aren't like most women.  You're different, so we can get along with you."  Usually, they say "you're rational, like us, and not like them" or "you're smart and good at math like us, and not like them."  Fortunately, other than the constant shock around here that someone with my personality could be female, ended only through demonstrative pictures, B12 is mostly okay.

I am just so tired of dealing with this.  It isn't about some stultified movement of political correctness.  It's about me wanting to see female leads, or an all-female team, where the characters aren't walking fetishes and the writing isn't targeted towards men.  It's about me being tired of having cartoons broadcasted over here with large portions of them cut out so that we can get to the part where there's a male hero, with the dialogue rewritten to give him a bigger part, because people won't watch shows about women.  I want to see women that I can feel proud of associating with, who aren't just clotheshorses for the male leads to be distracted by as the move from problem to conflict.

So call it "political correctness" if you like, because you're the one being advantaged by it.  And, just FYI, I wasn't going to say anything about the composition of the cast (not having watched the video, nor really caring that much--because after all, it was just another white male cast doing their thing) until folks started fucking with probability theory in the name of fighting "the political correctness machine."

I'm ashamed.



You do not get to use mathematics to argue this.  I do not care who you are, or what you think your reasoning is.  I don't care if you're a rhetoric student trying to demolish Nietzsche, or some idiot trying to attack the Bible because it reports the value of pi incorrectly.  I don't care if you're some dipshit from Harvard trying to explain, once again, that men have a more diverse IQ bell curve and that's why there's hardly any women in mathematics (because they aren't allowed to say we're just naturally more stupid, weak-willed, and "feeble-minded" than our male counterparts--as of Nazi Germany), and I don't care if you're Pythagoras, saying with the natural numbers that women don't have souls.  I don't care if it comes from the psychological side or the biological side, from sociology or misogynistic heuristics.

You don't know what you're doing, and so until you've done your studying and paid the weighty, weighty price to understand what the hell you're talking about:

Keep.  Your fucking.  Gender.  Politics.  Out.  Of.  My.  Mathematics.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46158 on: April 05, 2011, 12:47:29 pm »

They're not authentic, they just come over as "Yeah, lets throw in those guys too so that we don't get any complaints about it".
Better than a lawsuit.
The concept of a lawsuit over race gender diversity or the lack thereof is beautifully ironic.

How come?
The entire point is that no matter who or what you are you have the same value as everyone else. It doesn't matter if the people up there are all blond white blue-eyed supermen or some disabled, female, transsexual, poor, gay people of color, they all have the same value and their stories all have worth. Mandatory changing of these stories contradicts the idea that these differences don't change the value of a story.

 One can be tired of stories not including some element such as diversity, but this is not something to punish the stories or their authors over. It's one of those things you can't really fix through crap like this. I'm not really sure how one would go about that other than becoming renowned and making such a story.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46159 on: April 05, 2011, 12:47:43 pm »

Keep.  Your fucking.  Gender.  Politics.  Out.  Of.  My.  Mathematics.
I agree with this statement, despite the fact that I've only been in math up to Calc I.

Now, someone post something happy to change the topic or I'm going to have to go punt a kitten.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46160 on: April 05, 2011, 12:49:52 pm »

* Japa claps, slowly.

Also, as far as I'm concerned, if you have a minority in a supporting roll, (leads suffer from this to a lesser extent, mainly due to the rarity) please, for the love of god, don't make that the single defining trait of that character.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46161 on: April 05, 2011, 12:52:28 pm »

Tamora Pierce.

Circle of Magic was one of the coolest thing I have read.

Please be back to Happies now.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46162 on: April 05, 2011, 12:53:02 pm »

I can fucking register for next semester! I am happy!
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« Reply #46163 on: April 05, 2011, 12:56:00 pm »

I'm obtaining a coppy of the audio-book of Ellantris. anybody have any thoughts they'd like to share regarding audio books vs written ones?
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46164 on: April 05, 2011, 12:57:12 pm »

I'm obtaining a coppy of the audio-book of Ellantris. anybody have any thoughts they'd like to share regarding audio books vs written ones?
As long Morgan Freeman isn't the narrator then audio books are fine.

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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46165 on: April 05, 2011, 12:57:36 pm »

I have steam, with a game on!
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« Reply #46166 on: April 05, 2011, 12:58:12 pm »

Audiobooks are much easier to listen to when driving than written books.
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Re: [⑨] Things that Cirno lost today thread. (Happy Thread)
« Reply #46167 on: April 05, 2011, 12:58:57 pm »

I have steam, with a game on!
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« Reply #46168 on: April 05, 2011, 01:00:03 pm »

Audiobooks are much easier to listen to when driving than written books.
Yeah. I mean, have you TRIED driving with a massive copy of Moby Dick pressed to your ear? You have NO peripheral vision, and you don't hear much out of it either.
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« Reply #46169 on: April 05, 2011, 01:01:56 pm »

Circle of Magic was one of the coolest thing I have read.

I liked pretty much everything she wrote, though less so for the more recent stuff.  I guess I feel like it started going downhill with the Protector of the Small quartet.  Alanna was awesome, though, as was Daine, and the Circle of Magic books... heehee.  Daja and Rosethorn were my heroines.  So cool.  So, so cool.

I actually want to go back and repurchase paperback copies of those, so that I can have them around to read when I'm feeling down.  It was a real mistake to get rid of them.
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