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[Knit tie]

The last of us is overrated.

No, Gunni, that's not how you commit thread arson.


Dwarf Fortress is overrated.


That's how you do it.

[Gunner-Chan]

The Last of Us was amazing.
I challenge anyone who calls it "overrated" to name a better game.

Dark Souls, Arma III, X3:Terran Conflict, Nemesis II (MSX), Doom, pretty much anything that wants to be an actual game instead of the videogame equivalent of Oscar bait.

Of course, opinions and all so this is pretty subjective. _{Even if liking The last of us is objectionably wrong.}

[My Name is Immaterial]

The Last of Us is rated. Quite highly, as I understand it. I don't care, because I am a PC gamer, and don't give a flying truck about what consoles do. Most of the time.

[TCM]

I loved Last of Us, but it ain't got nothing on Def Jam NY. That's how you make a narrative.

[MaximumZero]

I should probably play that at some point. That point, of course, is a long way off because I don't have a console that supports it, but yeah. I should play it for my new job.

[Parsely]

The last of us is overrated.

No, Gunni, that's not how you commit thread arson.


Dwarf Fortress is overrated.


That's how you do it.

I said it was overrated, not that it was an intrinsically bad game, but for me the experience lacked. The gameplay itself is boring to me, because I've had a lot of fun with third-person stealth/action and this particular game didn't bring anything new to the table. It also had no way of solving conflicts without killing everyone, which kind of betrayed the expectations I had after watching the early gameplay trailers. Not saying I irrationally expect that of all action games but the way the fighting was portrayed I thought there would be a bit more tense moments like "you don't shoot me I don't shoot you m'kay?" I Am Alive done right, y'know?

And I think the narrative is great when compared to other action games, but I'll stick with my RPGs for that thank you.

[Tack]

Dark Souls, Arma III, X3:Terran Conflict, Nemesis II (MSX), Doom

Difficulty, Realism, Complexity, Nostalgia, Nostalgia.
If dramatic storylines aren't your thing, that's a you problem.

That being said, I loved The Last of Us. I had to borrow a PS3 to play it, and I don't regret it.
The only game which I think tops it on story is To The Moon.

[Karkov]

Dark Souls, Arma III, X3:Terran Conflict, Nemesis II (MSX), Doom

Difficulty, Realism, Complexity, Nostalgia, Nostalgia.
If dramatic storylines aren't your thing, that's a you problem.

That being said, I loved The Last of Us. I had to borrow a PS3 to play it, and I don't regret it.
The only game which I think tops it on story is To The Moon.

Hey now, Dark Souls isn't just about difficulty.  For me it was mainly exploration and the fresh breath of air that is nothing being spoon fed to you.  Also there's a wonderful story there, but you actually have to dig for it, which is pretty awesome.

Also, I've seen so many weird things in ARMA happen, I don't know if I can classify it as realism anymore.

[Tack]

Hey now, Dark Souls isn't just about difficulty. nothing being spoon fed to you. you actually have to dig for it.

... In your post telling me it isn't about difficulty, you describe difficulty.

To my shame I didn't actually play through much of Dark Souls. The PC port was so terrible it turned me off completely.

[Pnx]

The Last of Us was amazing.
I challenge anyone who calls it "overrated" to name a better game.

Iji, the Portal games... There's been a lot of games I've enjoyed more than The Last of Us... I mean I think it's a good game, like I said... but I don't think it was a great game.

Though I might only differ from Janet in this opinion because I like a good story, and if a game feeds me a good story, I don't care about the gameplay so much. Though in The Last of Us... Well the first fifteen minutes or so had me hooked, but after that... A lot of the things that happened started to feel very, very, contrived.

[Parsely]

He said it wasn't JUST about difficulty, Tack. You were the one who tagged its main point as being difficulty. :p There's whole YouTube channels dedicated just to dark souls lore. It's got a better story than last of us by leagues I'm afraid.

[Tack]

I love big universes more than anything, but I would consider lore and story to be different areas.
Lore makes you love learning more about the game, Story makes you love playing the main line.
So comparing the lore of that game to the lore of a linear game set present day is kinda unfair.

Unless you actually mean story, in which case I will sit and be bitter about not having money for a USB controller.

[Parsely]

A lot of both actually. But admittedly you really need to learn the lore to truly appreciate the main story..

You win this time TACK, but _{we'll meet aga-a-a-a-a-a-a-ain*crunch*}

[EnigmaticHat]

I for one found Dark Souls to be fucking boring.

Oh hey, I clicked a button, let's watch a 2 second animation.  Oh, a skeleton just hit me with flurry of attacks, I guess I'll just watch for a few seconds.  Hope I gain control of my character soon.

Oh what's this, I died twice in a row?  OK, let's grind for half an hour to gain resources back, because I guess instead of quarters this arcade machine takes time.  But its all worth it so I can get to the next area and fight... more fucking skeletons.

Its like they built an entire game out of those crypt areas every RPG ever has for boring side quests that have nothing to do with the story or the larger world.  And like, what's the point of difficulty if you can't lose the game anyway?  Give me Xcom or FTL any day of the week.

Edit: Before someone says it, yes, I never got past the several parts where you fight skeletons as the main enemy.  But I've watched Jamball play several parts of it and its all pretty much the same formula.

[freeformschooler]

There was a story?