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Re: +The Engravers Guild+
« Reply #1155 on: April 23, 2010, 05:00:26 am »

They don't really have an equivalent to dwarves though...

Leperchauns.

Yes, that was misspelled by mistake, and left there on purpose.  :D

But there are many "underground diminiutive people", the Aes Sidhe, the Tuatha de Danann, and less spiritual ones... There's also stories of tribes in Scotland that were driven underground by the Gaels. I believe those inspired Tolkien's dwarves in the first place. Edit: apparently I believed wrongly

@akigagak: The Picts, perhaps?
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« Reply #1156 on: April 23, 2010, 05:04:28 am »

Tolkien's dwarves are based partly on Norse dark elves (which are dwarves), with Semitic linguistics and various other things.
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« Reply #1157 on: April 23, 2010, 05:05:11 am »

But Faultie can take some artistic liberties, riiight?

Anyways, when he makes it, I just want the Formorians. :D
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« Reply #1158 on: April 23, 2010, 10:04:22 am »

What does that do? he goes epileptic and opens Warp Portals?
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But there are many "underground diminiutive people", the Aes Sidhe, the Tuatha de Danann, and less spiritual ones... There's also stories of tribes in Scotland that were driven underground by the Gaels.
The tuatha de danann were always more like elves than dwarves (even after they were driven underground and became the Aes Sidhe)

If you really want dwarves, you could make it a Celtic/Norse hybrid, which would be awesome. "Jörmungandr the Midgar Serpent has arrived at your fortress. You are dead." I don't really know any race that could be dwarves in Celtic myhtology though.

That may be the only way to go about it :-\
Norse Mythology offers a few good megabeast Ideas as well: frost giants, World serpents, colossal Wolves...

@akigagak: The Picts, perhaps?
I think the celts, the gaels, the picts, and the Fir Bolg would work better as races of men.
Fomorians would obviously be the goblin equivalent (except with more castes...)
The tuatha would be noble, forest dwelling elves, and the Sidhe could dwell in those kobold mounds that they have in the new version.

I also need Ideas on plants and metals to replace those which are unique to dwarf fortress.
I'm thinking of replacing Adamantine with a legendary Norse Alloy called Orichalcum.
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« Reply #1159 on: April 23, 2010, 10:06:40 am »

Dude, that's awesome.
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« Reply #1160 on: April 23, 2010, 10:25:40 am »

But there are many "underground diminiutive people", the Aes Sidhe, the Tuatha de Danann, and less spiritual ones... There's also stories of tribes in Scotland that were driven underground by the Gaels.
The tuatha de danann were always more like elves than dwarves (even after they were driven underground and became the Aes Sidhe)

Yeah that's true, and the sidhe include things like banshees, which are clearly not related to the dwarves.

No, I stay with leprechauns. Although they're more hobbit-like.

Really, the only ones from Gaelic mythology that even remotely come close to dwarves are the gaels themselves  ::)
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« Reply #1161 on: April 23, 2010, 01:46:22 pm »

*I'm not sure if this is Indian or Celtic myth, but there was a Cyclopean guy who could basically shoot a laser out of his eye. I think it's Indian.
"In Irish mythology, Balor of the Evil Eye was a king of the Fomorians, a race of giants. His father was Buarainech and his wife was Cethlenn. According to legend, he lived on Tory Island. Balor was notable for his one eye, which could kill anyone it looked upon. He gained this power as a child when watching his father's druids preparing poisonous spells, the fumes of which rose into his eye. His eye was normally kept closed, only to be opened on the battlefield by four men using a handle fitted to his eyelid, or, in some versions, a system of ropes and pulleys."

Reading further into this, it states that it was not Balor's gaze which killed people - he actually shot a fiery beam from his eye. When he died and fell to the earth, his eye burned a big hole in the ground which eventually became a lake.

EDIT: Oooh! Do Cuchulainn in the Warp Spasm!
I have finished a watercolour of warped Cuchulainn - but I can't access my scanner until three o'clock  :(
 
Yeah that's true, and the sidhe include things like banshees, which are clearly not related to the dwarves.
Really, the only ones from Gaelic mythology that even remotely come close to dwarves are the gaels themselves  ::)
ooh yeah I should include Banshees! Probably as a cast of sidhe.. (they should be able to fly, though I'm not sure about giving them a wailing attack or something...)

BIG QUESTION HERE: are there any professions (mechanic, for instance) that might not fit well with the celtic setting?

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« Reply #1162 on: April 23, 2010, 03:45:40 pm »

If anyone would like they can do some characters/things/places from mah book.

Guardian statue:
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And later
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Or this happy camper

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Or Appcendra
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go ahead and use them for inspiration if you feel like it.

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« Reply #1163 on: April 23, 2010, 04:24:36 pm »

BIG QUESTION HERE: are there any professions (mechanic, for instance) that might not fit well with the celtic setting?
Soap maker? :)

There's a lot on the aes sidhe and fae on the internet though, there's quite a few subcastes and differentiation in "subspecies".
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« Reply #1164 on: April 23, 2010, 04:36:56 pm »


BIG QUESTION HERE: are there any professions (mechanic, for instance) that might not fit well with the Celtic setting?
Doctor seems a little out of place
I don't remember any Philosophers hailing from celtic culture either


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« Reply #1165 on: April 23, 2010, 05:07:29 pm »

cuchulainn, in the throes of a warp-spasm.



he wields Gáe Bulg, a terrible barbed spear (which you apparently have to throw with your foot...). Once Gáe Bulg has pierced its victim, the victim's body must be carved into pieces before the spear can be removed.

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« Reply #1166 on: April 23, 2010, 05:55:50 pm »

that be a bit different from what I remember of Cuchulainn...

Apperently when they say that his berserker rage makes him into a monstrous forms they really mean that it turns him inside out.

Also, why doesn't he have 7 fingers, 7 toes and 7 pupils?

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« Reply #1167 on: April 23, 2010, 06:16:27 pm »

If I had followed the exact description (eyeballs hanging out, backwards legs, balls of sinew everywhere) he would have ended up looking ungainly and comical.

I went with the "turned around in his skin" and the "face pulled back until his gullet appeared" thing. his legs could be all bent up for all we know - they just aren't visible in the picture.

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« Reply #1168 on: April 23, 2010, 06:25:17 pm »

If I had followed the exact description (eyeballs hanging out, backwards legs, balls of sinew everywhere) he would have ended up looking ungainly and comical.

I went with the "turned around in his skin" and the "face pulled back until his gullet appeared" thing. his legs could be all bent up for all we know - they just aren't visible in the picture.
Yeah, that tends to be a problem with these mythical creatures and figures: their forms are often impossible to really visually represent as anything except bizarre clusters of madness. Like the hindu gods with the thousand heads and 40 legs and and 67 penises in the shape of bull intestines or something.

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« Reply #1169 on: April 23, 2010, 06:30:50 pm »

cuchulainn, in the throes of a warp-spasm.

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he wields Gáe Bulg, a terrible barbed spear (which you apparently have to throw with your foot...). Once Gáe Bulg has pierced its victim, the victim's body must be carved into pieces before the spear can be removed.

This is how he greets his wife, hugs and kisses golem, every day.

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