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[Fossaman]

It's not particularly difficult if you have water and magma in the same general area.

Yeah. The easiest way that comes to mind is a magmaduct passing under the floor of a body of water.

I have to wonder how well magma conducts heat through rock. As I understand it magma itself is exceptionally poor at transferring heat. But perhaps the area around magma pipes and pools should be more dangerous in general.

[Tack]

I dunno anything about magma. I'm no geographer, or geologist. Why is it bad at transferring heat?

[Manchild]

i think it has to do with the state that magma is in. its not quite a liquid or solid or goo.... i forgot alot of the states of matter but, as the state of magma is like a demi solid or demi liquid it doesnt convey as much heat as a person would think. magma is quite hot but the temperature of the air around it, while hot, is no where near as hot as you would think would be conveyed....

for example,(im not using real figures) if the magma was 100 degrees Far. then the air would be like.....50 deg. Far.

not the actual ratio, but it gets the point across.


If i was comparing anything to a Genocidal amount i would have mentioned the Armenians and their struggles, because they are more famous than the nazis around here for that.

meybe i should have called whoever a skinhead instead? no genocide but very strong and fierce prejudice, much like the nazis in themselves.

consider yourself enlightened. so go bugger yourself you wanker.

[Tack]

please, please. Give reference to who you're calling a wanker. You could offend people.
Also. You use words like bugger, and wanker like an aussie, but talk in Far. Stop fucking archetype mixing!

[orbcontrolled]

I always assumed fortresses were filled with bioluminescent fungi anyway, otherwise how do dwarves see what they're doing? Even the best night-vision in the world doesn't work in zero light.
I figured dwarves maybe have glowing fungi growing on the walls, or in their beards or something.

[Tack]

dude - they're DF dwarves. They work like ants to the hive. They already know the shortest way to the kitten, and they're all about getting it, whether it means going through a stream of 5\7 water and cancelling or not. This also explains the "dwarven fire fear phenomenon". They just don't see or feel it, but are told by their greater concious to stockpile it.

[Warlord255]

I always assumed fortresses were filled with bioluminescent fungi anyway, otherwise how do dwarves see what they're doing? Even the best night-vision in the world doesn't work in zero light.
I figured dwarves maybe have glowing fungi growing on the walls, or in their beards or something.

Lighting arc's set for the future, but right now the best we're getting is limited vision-persistence in the new caves, so we can explore them.

[Draco18s]

i think it has to do with the state that magma is in. its not quite a liquid or solid or goo.... i forgot alot of the states of matter but, as the state of magma is like a demi solid or demi liquid it doesnt convey as much heat as a person would think. magma is quite hot but the temperature of the air around it, while hot, is no where near as hot as you would think would be conveyed....

I don't think the heat trasnfer has to do with lava being a pseudoplastic fluid (i.e. exhibiting thixotropy), but rather due to the fact that it cools rapidly and forms a shell, which would reflect internal heat back in on itself, keeping the interior warm without radiating much to the surrounding environment.

That said, I have no source to back me up, though I did try to find some information.

[Manchild]

yeah, i would go ask my old Chemistry teacher, but as i ended up dropping out of school two years ago, aside from the internet, i dont have my resources that i used to.

as for who i was calling a bloody wanker, it was legolord. but that was besides the point.

as for how i talk, what do you mean by "Far"?

if you think how i type is archtype mixing, you should hear me.... im of Norwegian descent on me dad side, Irish on me moms side, born and raised in america and with an accent like a "Norn Iron"  aka person from Northern Ireland.

[LegoLord]

It's a good thing I don't know what a wanker is.  But look, the whole deal with nazis is still a sensitive issue in places.  There are plenty of other things you could compare us to that might be more appropriate (and I use "appropriate" loosely, as calling people names does not make your side of the debate sound any better).  The fact is there are people who disagree with you.  You, who is just another one of us, and just because you like an idea does not obligate any others to agree, and gives you no right to make personal remarks.  Now drop it.

As for magma, from what I hear it is indeed as Draco 18s describes it.  Unfortunately, just briefly looking at this article:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava
doesn't immediately suggest that it is the case.  It's a long article and I don't have the time to read it right now.

[Fossaman]

I read that as well. There was an interesting bit about lava tubes, and how they actually start as surface flows that melt their way down into previously formed rock. They also build up walls around their sides, but that melting thing caught my interest. If magma could re-melt volcanic rocks, it would make magmaneering projects a whole lot more interesting.

[Tack]

mmm. and dangerous.

[Manchild]

well, while i wont explain what a wanker is, i will offer an apology towards Legolord and anyone else who was offended. while i could make excuses, like saying i was sleep-deprived and irratable, or something, it doesnt change the fact that i was being an ass.... so...
Im sorry.


tho i still wanna know about that "Far" thing.....


I was always told that there was a difference between Lava and Magma.

so what is the difference, or why would you bring up lava when its a magma based discussion?

[Tack]

I'm guessing you meant farenheit.
Australians don't use farenheit.
Americans don't use wanker
Australians don't use jerk
Americans don't use... yeah, I'm out. Metric?

[Granite26]

Lava is on the surface, magma is under it.

Code for game would be =>  If Square.Outside = true then 'lava', else 'magma'

but that's a waste of time.