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kawaiidesunekochan

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will goblins drown?
« on: August 05, 2009, 12:21:49 am »

I was attacked by goblins recently. I killed all of them except for 3 guys who fell into a murky pool and can't get out. They can't attack my dwarves from there,but they can frighten them. My fisher dwarves have to walk near the pool to get back to the fortress to store their fish,but now,whenever they get too close to the goblin pit they get frightened and drop everything they're carrying. If I wait long enough,will the goblins drown or starve to death? The water level in the pool right now is 6/7 and it doesn't say they're drowning. Should I find another way to get rid of them?
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 12:25:42 am »

I think you need to have 7/7 water with a roof to make them drown, they won't starve, i'd just build some crossbows and train some new soldiers
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 03:16:50 am »

Or just rush into the pit with your champions and give them swimming lessons in the process.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 03:31:00 am »

I think you need to have 7/7 water with a roof to make them drown...

No need for the roof, just the 7/7 water.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 05:10:06 am »

Just 7/7 water works for anything without swimming skill, but you might want more then that, or a roof to keep them underwater if they have gained some skill.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2009, 05:27:45 am »

Do goblins gain swimming skill as they drown?

Hmm.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 05:59:06 am »

If you can't think of another solution, build some walls around that pool.  Or station your marksdwarves there for a bit, like kalida suggested.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 08:41:31 am »

Because they're in 6/7 they've probably already learnt to swim. Just magma the lot of them.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 10:32:38 am »

Magma would mean a loss of perfectly good +Goblin Bone Bolts+ and whatever iron they have on them.  The obvious solution is a marksdwarf.  Just have a miner on standby to dig a ramp if he jumps in to hammer the goblins to death after he runs out of ammo.  Otherwise after your marksdwarf gets some needed practice, dig our the pool and collect your iron and corpses to make +Goblin Bone Bolts+
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 10:43:12 am »

To solve your most immediate problem, setting traffic zones (assuming you have an proposed alternate route that avoids them, or can make one) should get your travelling fisherdwarfs detouring away from the "scary place" and bring them in without needing to drop anything.  Then you can set about dealing with the pool-bound enemies in whatever way you see fit, but at least with fish-filled stomachs. :)
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2009, 12:34:37 pm »

just set it as a zone so they fill it up with water.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2009, 02:18:09 pm »

This is definitely a case for your military to handle. Recruit some dwarves, tell them to use crossbows, and station them by the pool. When the deed is done you can pump out the pool and dig ramps to get to their goodies.

In 7/7 water goblins will definitely drown though. It's fun, though not as fun as stripping them of their weapons and armor and attacking them with bears.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2009, 03:16:03 pm »

Even funner than that, however, is to put a whole siege worth of them in one room and have all your recruits fire bolts at them. Clean up the items but leave the bodies and send in the next batch while the miasma is in the air.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 04:35:50 pm »

How do you take away thier items?
Everyone always says 'z' then Stocks, but theres nothing ever there to take away items.
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Re: will goblins drown?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 04:54:22 pm »

As already said, Goblins will drown in 7/7 water, but only with a roof above their heads. I had the same problem with orcs, I locked them in in my floodable outdoor-depot and their mounts (wolfspiders...) drowned but they just kept splashing happily inside their new pool  ::)

So yes. Recruit some marksdwarves and pincushion them.
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