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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51090 on: April 20, 2015, 04:26:42 pm »
You see what I mean? :P
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51091 on: April 20, 2015, 04:31:14 pm »
I wouldn't say that the df interface is hostile so much as apathetic.

"Look, I'm not gonna help at all, but go ahead and do whatever you want."
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51092 on: April 20, 2015, 04:48:35 pm »
Quote from: Blade Master Model 42 on April 20, 2015, 04:31:14 pm
I wouldn't say that the df interface is hostile so much as apathetic.

"Look, I'm not gonna help at all, but go ahead and do whatever you want."
But, but, there's even an in-game manual and everything!
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51093 on: April 20, 2015, 04:51:06 pm »
There's an in game key map if you know where to look, yeah.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51094 on: April 20, 2015, 04:56:18 pm »
Quote from: Blade Master Model 42 on April 20, 2015, 04:51:06 pm
There's an in game key map if you know where to look, yeah.
That's diabolical.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51095 on: April 20, 2015, 05:14:40 pm »
Quote from: Bauglir on April 20, 2015, 04:56:18 pm
Quote from: Blade Master Model 42 on April 20, 2015, 04:51:06 pm
There's an in game key map if you know where to look, yeah.
That's diabolical.
It's not like the suggestion to press "?" for the manual is present on the fucking main menu or anything, right?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51096 on: April 20, 2015, 05:46:02 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on April 20, 2015, 03:43:02 pm
it's really not as confusing as people make out with it to be
No, it really is.  You're just smart.

(and the retcon mechanic is still excessive and somewhat betrays everything that came before, but meh)

Edit:  Jegusdammit I didn't catch that.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2015, 05:50:34 pm by Rolan7 »
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51097 on: April 20, 2015, 05:47:44 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on April 20, 2015, 03:43:02 pm
it's really not as confusing as people make out with it to be
I see who you did there.

Quote from: Sergarr on April 20, 2015, 04:48:35 pm
Quote from: Blade Master Model 42 on April 20, 2015, 04:31:14 pm
I wouldn't say that the df interface is hostile so much as apathetic.

"Look, I'm not gonna help at all, but go ahead and do whatever you want."
But, but, there's even an in-game manual and everything!

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Didn't you read the manual? He he he he... the manual... ...
To be fair, at some point since I first played DF the manual has been expanded to contain some amount of actually relevant information.

MSPA's FAQ on the other hand hasn't been updated in forever.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51098 on: April 20, 2015, 06:00:25 pm »
The main key to MSPA, especially the retcon power, is assuming that everything does exactly what it says it does, and taking everything at face value. Seriously.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51099 on: April 20, 2015, 06:04:05 pm »
Quote from: Rolan7 on April 20, 2015, 05:46:02 pm
(and the retcon mechanic is still excessive and somewhat betrays everything that came before, but meh)
Really? It seemed to fit perfectly into the theme of the story to me.

I don't mind people being confused by MSPA, I just hate it when people complain about [current arc] being confusing and nothing getting explained. Like you can take for granted that plot mysteries #1-874 were explained, but somehow don't expect the same to happen with #875.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51100 on: April 20, 2015, 09:33:15 pm »
It's just yet another layer on top of an already very layered plot.  Just in my opinion, things were plenty interesting and complicated with stable time loops.  But, I suppose we always knew it would go even more meta.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51101 on: April 21, 2015, 10:15:17 pm »
Quote from: Rolan7 on April 20, 2015, 09:33:15 pm
It's just yet another layer on top of an already very layered plot.  Just in my opinion, things were plenty interesting and complicated with stable time loops.  But, I suppose we always knew it would go even more meta.
Onion-like layers? Of irony?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51102 on: April 21, 2015, 10:37:23 pm »
Update, in caste you didn't understand.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51103 on: April 21, 2015, 10:51:51 pm »
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #51104 on: April 21, 2015, 11:09:41 pm »
.....

Damn you Hussie. I don't know how you create such intricate lines that seem to connect relatively unconnected events together, but you do it. Well done.
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