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Meansdarling

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43230 on: December 05, 2012, 01:42:03 am »

OH NOOOO!

This is bad.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43231 on: December 05, 2012, 02:05:10 am »

I wonder, will Jade be powerful enough to just NOPE GCat out of the picture? God Tier on top of Bec power.

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This being Homestuck, I'm not sure whether that's post-scratch Rose or Vriska with a wig.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43232 on: December 05, 2012, 02:09:40 am »

What are the odds of us switching to an intermission right now?
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43233 on: December 05, 2012, 02:10:13 am »

Nil, we still hadn't Dirk's PoV yet.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43234 on: December 05, 2012, 02:23:32 am »

I wonder, will Jade be powerful enough to just NOPE GCat out of the picture? God Tier on top of Bec power.

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At this point LE is probably the only one who could take on Jade. Godtiers seem to eventually outstrip Green Sun and Ring powers combined.

And she's a dog
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43235 on: December 05, 2012, 02:25:25 am »

I wonder, will Jade be powerful enough to just NOPE GCat out of the picture? God Tier on top of Bec power.

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At this point LE is probably the only one who could take on Jade. Godtiers seem to eventually outstrip Green Sun and Ring powers combined.

And she's a dog
I disagree. It was already established that vriska was god tier with everything maxed out, and she still was demonstrated as losing to Jack. Sure, she managed to avoid insta-stab, but she was in no way outstripping him.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43236 on: December 05, 2012, 02:27:32 am »

I wonder, will Jade be powerful enough to just NOPE GCat out of the picture? God Tier on top of Bec power.

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At this point LE is probably the only one who could take on Jade. Godtiers seem to eventually outstrip Green Sun and Ring powers combined.

And she's a dog
Condesce: YOU BIIIIIIIITC)(!

I'm so sorry.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43237 on: December 05, 2012, 02:36:00 am »

Maxed out? I don't think so. It was established that she had claimed godhood "before reaping the prodigious spoils from striking down a formidable endgame foe." If she hadn't reached the upper limit on god powers (assuming one exists) it is possible that somebody of a higher tier still could have won - her loss was narrow, though it has recently become canon instead of likely.

That said, it's still unlikely that god tier power will allow the defeat of LE - they're going to need to be cleverer than that. LE wins the brute force contest virtually automatically, which is pretty much the point of his character. He's essentially the guy who figures out an Unbeatable Combo and optimizes it to the bleeding edge; purely tactical, no overall strategy. The guy who figures out a way to get this fucker out on turn 1. You can't beat that if you're playing in the way he expects, no matter how brilliant or intricate your strategy is, no matter how many countermeasures you have available. You need to go outside the box, so that all his power isn't relevant. You need shenanigans. You need to make a deck entirely out of copies of 1 card and, when he goes to get a judge to kick you out of the game, replace every card with Cheatyfaces you had stuffed in your pockets.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43238 on: December 05, 2012, 02:44:13 am »

I wonder, will Jade be powerful enough to just NOPE GCat out of the picture? God Tier on top of Bec power.

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At this point LE is probably the only one who could take on Jade. Godtiers seem to eventually outstrip Green Sun and Ring powers combined.

And she's a dog
I disagree. It was already established that vriska was god tier with everything maxed out, and she still was demonstrated as losing to Jack. Sure, she managed to avoid insta-stab, but she was in no way outstripping him.
It's established that there are Godtier levels beyond simply being a god. There are more rungs to climb. If we assume Vriska's luck stealing power is akin to what John just recently learned, and John fought into the same position Vriska was in before having that strength, then we can assume John would eventually be able to take him on without outside help.

And the classes thing but who the heck knows how those work. Jade is just cool and rad.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43239 on: December 05, 2012, 02:57:07 am »

Jade ALSO has green sun and sprite powers, in addition to the god tier powers though. She is a force to be reckoned with.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43240 on: December 05, 2012, 03:54:46 am »

Well, the entire discussion above was about what is more important in the long run, with basically everyboy agreeing on Godtier, and an awesome strategy guide for MTG tournament play.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43241 on: December 05, 2012, 04:03:23 am »

Roxy is in some deeeep trouble here. Unless we've been misled about Her Imperious Condescension's true nature all along.

Which seems unlikely.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43242 on: December 05, 2012, 04:24:25 am »

There will be cake.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43243 on: December 05, 2012, 08:24:13 am »

I dunno, but the chillax vocals and the whole "sunshine in a bag" thing are very reminiscent of stoned!Gamzee. Your other points still stand, of course.
IIRC, the "sunshine in a bag" in that song doesn't refer to anything illicit; rather, it refers to a bag of gold--not a drug/alcohol reference, but a western reference.

That and what Madoc said about how the lyrics for the most part only apply to the Gorillaz themselves.
My point in saying that was that it's hard for the song to apply to anything but the Gorrilaz as it mentions the "members" directly. It's sort of like Zepplin's "The Battle of Evermore," which will have trouble being applied to anything but LoTR since it mentions references LoTR lore directly.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #43244 on: December 05, 2012, 08:47:03 am »


Taken from here.
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