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[dragnar]

So... The "Ultimate Reward" is to be able to make your own universe to live in?

I don't think you're going to find anything but the most distant hints on how anyone created any universes.  Heck, in one of the memos, Karkat even mentioned Sollux trying to find the (already extant) universe that was interfering with theirs.

Yes, but time travel makes the time of the universe's creation irrelevant. The Scratch came from the kid's session before the trolls had created earth.

[Aqizzar]

I don't think universes are created here, I think this whole ordeal just deals with these two. And I don't think it's as easy as the Trolls creating the human universe.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003926

See what I mean?  Yes, okay, the universes are connected, that's been abundantly clear for a long time.  But nothing about either of them creating the other, just some function being dependent on one or the other of them ending.  Fuck, I'm not a programmer, but it says "import" not "create".

And damn, the next page over - I forgot how hilarious Karkat was before he got all melancholy.  Not that he isn't hilarious when he's melancholy too.  Guy's a goldmine, really.

[ToonyMan]

MY SHIT REMAINS UNFLIPPED
ITS SIZZLING ON ONE SIDE

[Aqizzar]

MIRACLES ARE LIKE POOP STAINS ON GOD'S UNDERWEAR.
THAT'S WHY HE HIDES THEM, THEY'RE FUCKING EMBARRASSING.
GOD LAUNDERS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.

Holy shit, I really do love this comic.

[ToonyMan]

Holy sunny side shit.

[smjjames]

I just noticed something, look here at the colors glowing on the edges of Alternia: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004510 , the spot between yellow and green is white. For a second, I thought that it was a slip up, but I looked at the constellations around earth and the constellation corresponding to that one is a whitish grey.

I'm not sure which constellation that is, but its between Gemini and Leo.

EDIT: Found it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_%28constellation%29 Its Karkats constellation. It threw me off because we all know it would be red and so betweem Aradia and Feferi, but the constellations are arranged to the way they actually are.

So Karkats blood caste status is actually between yellow and green, I guess.

[Josephus]

I don't think you're going to find anything but the most distant hints on how anyone created any universes.  Heck, in one of the memos, Karkat even mentioned Sollux trying to find the (already extant) universe that was interfering with theirs.

Yes, but time travel makes the time of the universe's creation irrelevant. The Scratch came from the kid's session before the trolls had created earth.

DOUBLE MOBIUS REACHAROUND

I'm willing to bet that the rift is caused by the Kids not winning their session in the proper way, meaning the troll universe was never created. Meaning time paradox.

[Jim Groovester]

Spoiler: It keeps happening (click to show/hide)

Shocking develomonpment!

Maybe SBURB is a mechanism designed to keep him out by continually creating universes?

Okay, I really need to read this arc again.

Or it's a mechanism designed to perpetually keep him fed.

Or perhaps Lord English has subverted Sburb's original purpose for his own use. This is my guess.

It might not be OUR earth, but one very similar to it. Nobody has specifically said that the 'red' universe is the one the Kids inhabit.

Let's not ignore clear implications when they're presented to us. Note that the advancement command is back to being '==>', which is the kids' advancement command. This is Earth, our Earth, the kids' Earth. Whoever it belonged to before the troll arc, that's whose Earth it is.

I just noticed something, look here at the colors glowing on the edges of Alternia: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004510 , the spot between yellow and green is white. For a second, I thought that it was a slip up, but I looked at the constellations around earth and the constellation corresponding to that one is a whitish grey.

I'm not sure which constellation that is, but its between Gemini and Leo.

Cancer. That band is gray because Karkat's color of choice is gray.

[smjjames]

@Jim: Yea, I had figured that out and edited my post, heh.

[Zai]

9:58 PM - [DFC]Org: What is the Ultimate Riddle?
9:58 PM - [DFC] Homestuck Shrimp: We don't know
9:59 PM - [DFC]Org: What do you think, then
9:59 PM - [DFC] Homestuck Shrimp: Why the hell did Hussie make this comic?
9:59 PM - [DFC]Org: BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE JUST HUSSIE SPILT INTO FOUR
9:59 PM - [DFC]Org: ANDREW HUSSIE IS ACTUALLY TROLL HUSSIE
9:59 PM - [DFC]Org: HE MADE THIS UNIVERSE
10:00 PM - [DFC]Org: THROUGH SGURB
10:00 PM - [DFC]Org: WHICH HE MADE AnD PLAYED THROUGH BY HIMSELF
10:00 PM - [DFC]Org: TWICE

[smjjames]

I just realized that if you spelled Sburb as Sburg, you have an anagram or whatever its called of Sgrub.

[The Doctor]

Why would you spell it as Sburg

[Benevolence]

For horrible iceburg puns.

[Qmarx]

Maybe SBURB is a mechanism designed to keep him out by continually creating universes?

Okay, I really need to read this arc again.

I don't think you're going to find anything but the most distant hints on how anyone created any universes.  Heck, in one of the memos, Karkat even mentioned Sollux trying to find the (already extant) universe that was interfering with theirs.  I know Hussie likes to backtrack, but this "universe we created" business takes the Asspull of the Year Award as far as I'm concerned.

It's hardly an asspull if it's been specced since before the beginning of the troll arc.

[Sensei]

Hussie pulls it out of his ass, seeds evidence, and then drops the idea two months later. But it does not mean ass-pulling is not what is occurring here.