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Aqizzar

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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4605 on: July 30, 2010, 07:39:02 pm »

Considering most of the draw of Acts 2, 3, and 4 was HOLYSHIT AWESOME TOTALLY EPIC FLASH THIS IS RIGHTEOUS stuff, it strikes me as weird that Hussie spent so much time and effort laboring over characterization and plot (which I do appreciate, because hey, they're trolls), and is flying literally as fast as he can get away with over all the best opportunities to show crazy fight scenes and animations.  My guess is, he didn't want to go to the trouble of making another "JACK: ASCEND" type mini-magnum opus.

He does seem to enjoy the characterization and plot stuff.  The sudden change in pace is just really jarring.
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« Reply #4606 on: July 30, 2010, 07:47:57 pm »

It is, at that. I think he's trying to get through this entire act without flash, or maybe will flash to end the act. Or arc, whichever.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4607 on: July 30, 2010, 07:59:29 pm »

I wouldn't mind a final troll boss battle flash. I wouldn't mind one bit.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4608 on: July 30, 2010, 08:10:55 pm »

Augh.

I gotta say, I actually preferred this at the beginning.  Currently catching up on act V.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4609 on: July 30, 2010, 08:14:39 pm »

I gotta say, I actually preferred this at the beginning.

Glad to hear I'm not the only person missing the good old days of weaponized fetch modii and Sburb shenanigans.  Well, apparently Hussie kinda does too, so maybe that'll be coming back around soon.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4610 on: July 30, 2010, 08:18:04 pm »

I gotta say, I actually preferred this at the beginning.

Glad to hear I'm not the only person missing the good old days of weaponized fetch modii and Sburb shenanigans.  Well, apparently Hussie kinda does too, so maybe that'll be coming back around soon.

Yeah.  There's the fact that a lot of the story is delivered via confusing animation, and the fact that the rest of it generally comes through nearly-illegible pesterlogs... and I can actually feel myself tensing up from the sheer amounts of rancor being flung around by the trolls.  Sure, I like them, but I miss the days of John being a dweeb and puppet piles.


EDIT: Yeah, the explicit "Hey, we're skipping all the funny/cool parts :D" is starting to piss me off.  Darker and edgier is not always better.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4611 on: July 30, 2010, 08:54:01 pm »

EDIT: Yeah, the explicit "Hey, we're skipping all the funny/cool parts :D" is starting to piss me off.  Darker and edgier is not always better.

To be fair, he wants the audience to have some inkling of what happened in Troll World and have some connection to the characters, without having to basically retell a story he hasn't finished telling yet, but with a dozen alien jackasses instead of four dweeby humans.  Probably a better decision in the end.  I'm still divided on whether the rise and fall of Pounce de Leon in two panels was a magnificent joke on his own writing style, or just plain cruel.


There was a time when that was the coolest thing ever seen, after watching John traipse around with a spring-ride, a can of shaving cream, and a claw hammer.  I'm hoping we get back to that scale of reference soon.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4612 on: July 30, 2010, 09:28:22 pm »

Seems like Andrew is trying to cover a lot of ground really quickly.

Hmm. This may have been a bit premature considering:

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But since we've decided to engage this epic in shorthand, you feel you must insist that we continue with this expository interlude.

Looks like we're getting spoonfed exposition for a bit, and then back to the trolls.

What a nice change of pace to actually be spoonfed exposition, instead of having to expend a ridiculous amount of effort just to get a basic grasp of what's going on.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4613 on: July 31, 2010, 12:09:40 am »

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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4614 on: July 31, 2010, 12:56:28 am »

Cosbytop!

The quotes when those updates with John alchemizing came out:

Sweet new gear of awesome is awesome.

whoa, that umbrella is giving me Batman flash backs.

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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4615 on: July 31, 2010, 03:07:20 am »

The main purpose of this intermission is to characterize the trolls. The game itself doesn't matter that much, we already know how it ended: The trolls are in the veil, doomed to certain death, trolling the kids out of trollspite; The Midnight Crew was exiled; The Black Queen was exiled an somehow gained universe-ending powers. So, seeing Vriska toss Tavros off a cliff was important because it told us a lot about both Vriska and Tavros, whereas watching people prototype their kernelsprites and build their houses and alchemize weapons and fight imps isn't since that only brings the plot closer to its predetermined end. We already saw John do all that. We know how it happens.

And I don't think the pesterlogs are hard to read. Well, Doc Scratch you have to highlight, and Gamzee is kind of annoying, but others are easy.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4616 on: July 31, 2010, 03:28:53 am »

If any of these are disturbing or repeats I am sorry there's a lot.
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4617 on: July 31, 2010, 03:46:44 am »

Lagomorph?

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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4618 on: July 31, 2010, 03:47:30 am »

Just saying, that Gamzee/Tavros is horrifying...
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Re: MSPA: How I Learned to Stop Complaining and Love the Trolls
« Reply #4619 on: July 31, 2010, 03:51:01 am »

Sharing part of a chumhandle with that... thing, is going to irk the hell out of me from now on.

Also yes. Horrifying.
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