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[dragnar]

"Wait. How does 'fractal recursion' even make sense syntactically? Fractals are constructed using recursion not the other way around! Or is it some kind of metaphor that has nothing to do with the mathematical meaning of the words? "

I would guess it means that the recursive time loop we have seen is nothing more than a small repeating piece of an even larger loop. A time loop formed of an infinite number of timeloops.

[Karnewarrior]

"Wait. How does 'fractal recursion' even make sense syntactically? Fractals are constructed using recursion not the other way around! Or is it some kind of metaphor that has nothing to do with the mathematical meaning of the words? "

The answer is Oboe.


A cycle inside a cycle inside a cycle.
Sophia, don't trust anyone. Not gleejoy, not the Angels, and certainly not this thing. Whatever it is, it's not you. You're not it. And whatever it want's you to kill... Make sure your own path parallells his before you kill someone.
We are not this abomination, nor are we the abominations out there. We are normal. WE CAN SEE.
WE ARE ALONE IN OUR ASCENDANCY.

But we can take a few others. Those in your school. Some of the less willing Gleejoy. Others who, like us, are "Crazy".
IF WE ARE MAD. WE'LL TAKE THEM DOWN WITH US.

[Armok]

That has nothing to do with fractals. It's branching, recursive, and complex, but it isn't GEOMETRICAL.  At best, a fractal could be used as a visual aid for thinking about it, but probably not.

[iceball3]

*bump*
i'm gonna watch this.

[The Mad Engineer]

"

That has nothing to do with fractals. It's branching, recursive, and complex, but it isn't GEOMETRICAL.  At best, a fractal could be used as a visual aid for thinking about it, but probably not.

:"Wait! How can recursion be fractal?  Shouldn't it be the other way round?  You're not making any sense!"

:"Oh, Sophia.  We always were the intelligent one, calculating and cynical even in the face of terror.  If you must know, I wasn't referring to "fractal" as the adjective of a noun.  I was referring to it as an adjective of the adjective.  A type of recursion:  The recursion OF a fractal.  For surely you must agree that recursive formulas can be unique, and there is a great deal of difference between the recursion of a simple cycle and that of a shape with infinite perimeter.

But this is not the time to argue about syntax or mathematics.  In case you have forgotten, I've been explaining your destiny.  Your reason for existence.

You are here to end recursion.  And all you have to do is confront the problems that plague your life.  The Lord of the Flies...his execution will come later.  Do not worry about it right now.  More pressing problems are closing in.  And we cannot allow them to break you."

[dwarfguy2]

like what? daymares of progress?

[Karnewarrior]

"Purpose? Why must there be a purpose?
Does the Earth have a purpose? No, it circles the sun, but that is no purpose. Purpose is a human concept, and I need no purpose.

"'purpose' aside, What would you have me do? I can't guarantee I'll do it, but I'd like to see if you have any better ideas of carrying out my... Plan."

[Armok]

"Wait a moment, the kind of recursion stable timeloops belong to does not exist inside time, so the concept of change, of wich ending is a subtype, is nonsensical!
Unless you're implying some kind of metatime, there is no cart of Present circling around the looping track of time, it's just a static ring with no oscillation to render unstable."

[dragnar]

"Wait a moment, the kind of recursion stable timeloops belong to does not exist inside time, so the concept of change, of wich ending is a subtype, is nonsensical!
Unless you're implying some kind of metatime, there is no cart of Present circling around the looping track of time, it's just a static ring with no oscillation to render unstable."

Outside of mathematics no resursion is perfect. These timeloops are NOT stable, they repeat with minor changes every time through the loop. A perfect timeloop cannot end, but even a slight flaw in the recursion can build up more and more until the loop is broken. Think of the loop as being like a top: it seems to repeat, but eventually it will begin to falter, and then collapse.

[Armok]

Do you actually know the math and physics behind this? Or for that matter, read my allusion to an explanatioid?

[Karnewarrior]

Armok, how exactly would Sophia come across highly advanced mathmatical knowledge? We have no indication that that's her field of specialty, or that this civilization is advanced to the point that that's common knowledge.

[Armok]

There is no reason she would, other than me thinking it'd result in a more compelling story to have an intelligent character taking initiative and manipulation these things with understanding.

[Zako]

Two words: shes insane.

[The Mad Engineer]

"Wait a moment, the kind of recursion stable timeloops belong to does not exist inside time, so the concept of change, of wich ending is a subtype, is nonsensical!
Unless you're implying some kind of metatime, there is no cart of Present circling around the looping track of time, it's just a static ring with no oscillation to render unstable."

:  We're sorry, the line is busy. Ple-

^%^%$%$

:Do not interfere with the beliefs of my children.  I will not tolerate the destruction of hope!

&*^$%$$%

:  -ease hang up and try again!

[dwarfguy2]

ah, that makes perfect sense. go with her sophia.