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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #6300 on: November 05, 2009, 12:59:50 pm »

Holyshitawesome.

I don't think I need to say more.

Now I'm curious though, does that count just for [TAME]able creatures, or any kind of creatures. Like, Umie Humanperson traveling to a chasm and befriending trolls and whatnot.
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« Reply #6301 on: November 05, 2009, 01:10:08 pm »

Holyshitawesome.

I don't I need to say more.

Now I'm curious though, does that count just for [TAME]able creatures, or any kind of creatures. Like, Umie Humanperson traveling to a chasm and befriending trolls and whatnot

I said exactly the same thing (even without spaces), and my natural language isnt even english!
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« Reply #6302 on: November 05, 2009, 01:19:42 pm »

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Is pathfinding for flying invaders improved with the new version? In the current version my invaders on flying mounts just sort of sit in the air doing nothing forever

My best guess is no because that has a lot to do with what is going to happen with improved sieges.
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« Reply #6303 on: November 05, 2009, 01:45:49 pm »

Interesting.

I can't wait.
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« Reply #6304 on: November 05, 2009, 01:51:14 pm »

Interesting.

I can't wait.

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #6305 on: November 05, 2009, 02:52:56 pm »

All I can say is wow, I'm impressed with the fact that we now have humans who can tame giant eagles and Jaguars. This will take the game to a whole new level of possibility and challenges. I am definetely looking forward to seeing this release once it's complete!
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« Reply #6306 on: November 05, 2009, 02:58:09 pm »

What.  :o

That came out of freakin' nowhere! I bet this'll make preventing elf ambushes/sieges way more urgent. As Dakk asked, can similar things happen with non-tameable/intelligent creatures (like trolls/satyrs/sasquatches)? If that is so, elf/animalpeople alliances have already been realized. So very awesome. Can that apply to (semi)megabeasts? If the creatures can equip items, will their patron entity kit them out with gear?

I can't wait to see goblin ambushes/sieges with squads of stranglers.  :D
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #6307 on: November 05, 2009, 03:55:25 pm »

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Is pathfinding for flying invaders improved with the new version? In the current version my invaders on flying mounts just sort of sit in the air doing nothing forever

My best guess is no because that has a lot to do with what is going to happen with improved sieges.

It might also end up having a lot to do with the "Improved Pathfinder" item at #4 in Eternal Suggestion Voting.  Yeah, I wouldn't expect the flying mounts to work that well yet.  Still, that sounds pretty badass.
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« Reply #6308 on: November 05, 2009, 03:56:39 pm »

There may need to be a check in the future for Flyers to see how much weight they can carry and still fly.
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« Reply #6309 on: November 05, 2009, 04:04:13 pm »

Yeah, and then there's the fact that all birds (and dragons, and harpies, and so on) act like hummingbirds in the DF universe.  A proper implementation of flying would be ungodly complicated, with long banking turns and the need to stay out of twisting tight spaces and so on.  Maybe not impossible though... you could maybe encourage them to fly swoopingly by adjusting path weights relative to the current path vector, inducing them to change direction as little as possible.  Definitely not a total solution though.  I should probably bring it up in yonder pathfinding thread.
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« Reply #6310 on: November 05, 2009, 04:08:49 pm »

This seriously bears repeating, with emphasis.

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Getak Twigracks was a human warlord ruling the town of Spoongrizzle. After four peaceful years, he decided to make a journey to a nearby mountain range called the Belted Tooth, and in the manner of the legendary stories, he managed to tame the giant eagles that lived there. Eight years later, he traveled west, befriending the jaguars that lived in the hills there and bringing some back for his personal menagerie. Many more years drifted by, and the aging warrior thought perhaps he would be able to live out the end of his life in harmony with his many beasts. However, this was not to be -- because I forced a human assault on my fortress with a debug command. Several squads of foot soldiers came, as well as a group of trained jaguars running along with them. Getak was escorted by his personal guard, all riding giant eagles. The seven dwarves milling around by the wagon put up a modest defense.

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« Reply #6311 on: November 05, 2009, 04:09:19 pm »

It could be handled like Charging.

Birds without a hovering ability effectively "Charge" (or forced Run) to locations.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #6312 on: November 05, 2009, 04:10:54 pm »

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Is pathfinding for flying invaders improved with the new version? In the current version my invaders on flying mounts just sort of sit in the air doing nothing forever

My best guess is no because that has a lot to do with what is going to happen with improved sieges.

It might also end up having a lot to do with the "Improved Pathfinder" item at #4 in Eternal Suggestion Voting.  Yeah, I wouldn't expect the flying mounts to work that well yet.  Still, that sounds pretty badass.

Yeah, I don't expect that he's done too much. But since I wasn't expecting humans attacking on Giant Eagles, either, it seems like a fair question.
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« Reply #6313 on: November 05, 2009, 04:12:01 pm »

I really dislike it when people do "Quote only" posts.

Honestly say something!
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« Reply #6314 on: November 05, 2009, 04:21:56 pm »

I really dislike it when people do "Quote only" posts.

Honestly say something!

Haha, around here it's accidental 90% of the time, as it was above.
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