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[smjjames]

I think Mephansteras meant that it shouldn't require a workshop that requires a specific object where if you don't embark in the right place, you won't be able to make it and you can't ask for glass in trade.

While it's easy enough to mod some of the soil layers to be useable for sand collection, the point is that most workshops just require a bit of raw stone, wood, metal bars, or blocks to build. All of which are easy to get. The few that do need something as well else really only require barrels and buckets, which again, are easy to get.

@Footkerchief: Now if we could get the alchemists workshop to accept metal flasks.....

[CobaltKobold]

Yeah, need to fix that so you don't become a superplaguefort automatically without local sand, tree-cutting bugs aside.

It's like how you can request flux, but only if they have access to it.

As for alchemist workshops, wouldn't certain precious metals satisfy the nonreactive requirement?

[Footkerchief]

As for alchemist workshops, wouldn't certain precious metals satisfy the nonreactive requirement?

Well, the reactivity explanation falls a little flat anyway since the only "alchemy" is soapmaking, which you can do in any ordinary cooking pot.  Plus the alchemist's lab makes you use clear glass specifically, even though green glass is no more reactive (I think).

e: slight correction, it looks like lye will eat through aluminum, which shouldn't be a concern for working-class dwarves.  Other metals are probably okay though?

[Outcast Orange]

For soapmaking, honestly, the kitchen would make just as much sense.  And since soapmaking will be a raw'd reaction (by the looks of it anyway), and the alchemist's shop and kitchen will both be reaction-capable, it'll be easy to move the job over there.  I think that would automatically make it a job for Cooks, unless the new reactions have a profession parameter.

Sounds reasonable.
I've seen an old soap making workshop in my local historical thingy, and it was sort of largish/elaborate.
There was this big wooden support thing with a huge hanging pot, and a few benches. I guess a large kitchen could handle the task.
But it was pretty much a specialty task back then.

"Have you smelled Earl's soap? I swear he's been witchin' it somehow."
"Really? I don't get mine from him anymore." *Moves cloth sack behind back*
"That's odd, I thought he was the only one in the village with goats."
"Well... Um... I get mine from market."

[Osmosis Jones]

As for alchemist workshops, wouldn't certain precious metals satisfy the nonreactive requirement?

Well, the reactivity explanation falls a little flat anyway since the only "alchemy" is soapmaking, which you can do in any ordinary cooking pot.  Plus the alchemist's lab makes you use clear glass specifically, even though green glass is no more reactive (I think).

e: slight correction, it looks like lye will eat through aluminum, which shouldn't be a concern for working-class dwarves.  Other metals are probably okay though?

Platinum will be dissolved by basic solutions, so thats out (our chem department has lost several $400 platinum crucibles that way) but I'm pretty sure gold can handle it.

[Warlord255]

Gameplay-wise, if the Alchemy profession gains use, it'd likely involve more expensive and/or exotic materials for the hard stuff. Ergo, there needs to be some measure of training; mass-produced soap fills this requirement handily.

Also, with imported sand/glass goods, the Alchemist's workshop will no longer be a luxury for sand maps; getting one set up will be a crucial step towards protecting your fort against pandemic infections.

[Arkose]

Ladies and Gentledwarves, today is a dark day. At around the 16th of Granite we received word that the fortress of Butterflytoast, our patrons, were struck by an incurable death called the red splotches. The king was among those that died within the first month, and as far as we know the fortress has been completely unpopulated. Now for the bad news.

Yesterday, as the surgeon general made his rounds of the quarters, he noticed Urist Horntrench had passed out. Subsequent examination revealed that it was red splotches. Today the surgeon general and his immediate medical staff have all been diagnosed with the red splotches. Their infections are expected to become terminal at noon today, by which time we believe most of the populous will have contracted the disease as well.

My fellow dwarves, I now ask you to pray to your gods. Not for yourselves, your family, or your king. I ask you to pray for those that will survive, for even survival will be a dance with Armok. Thank you. I leave you to tend to my family.

Since most people probably didn't get the reference: Jack London's "The Scarlet Plague". (Which I haven't read yet, although it is freely available online at Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21970/21970-h/21970-h.htm)

There is a pretty awesome old-timey 1950's radio drama adaptation that you might enjoy listening to if Jualin's dorfatization intrigued you:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/scififriday/scififriday42.mp3

[Kinnis]

Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure a head.
Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure a head.
Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure a torso.
Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure a right arm.
Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure a left right arm.
Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure an elven left leg.
Urist The Surgeon requires an assistant to procure a cave spider right leg.

Changed slightly to produce a more dwarfy outcome.

[Dante]

Now that soap isn't as worthless, it seems people want its making moved out of the alchemist's workshop

Wow, that was a quick response.

I'm doing custom workshops and furnaces

Awesome.

Still, since you can assign any number of reactions to the new buildings, and reactions can now be given required skills (from among existing types), this should be quite versatile for allowing modders to turn almost any item(s) into almost any other item(s) in more thematic workshops, using raw items and materials or the hard-coded ones.

Dwarf Fortress: Platonic weave from which all other sandbox games are cut?

Seriously, this is less of a game, more of a narrative whose paramaters you establish yourself to whatever precision you want.
Which, I guess, is what Toady is aiming for.

[Astus Ater]

I wonder if we can use the custom workshops/reactions to make "living" creatures?

Get some dwarf bones, some rotten meat, probably some modded material for flavor, and you get dwarven zombies.

If creatures can be created, then you'd just need to create a zombie dwarf in the raws, give him the [trAINABLE] tag(think that was it), and use the new venom system to have them kill invaders. If you can actually set it so their flesh is rotten, even better.

I don't know if infections or rotten flesh will affect other dwarves, but if so, you can use the burrows feature to seperate your "necromancers" from the rest of the fortress.

[Chronas]

custom workshops and furnaces

inb4 modded superworkshop that does everything

[Leafsnail]

Not sure about crafting zombies, but a workshop that crafts Golems could be good.

[THLawrence]

The new custom workshops seem like they could hold a great deal of potential. Since you can choose what skill is trained it could be possible to set up "training dummies" by creating a custom workshop that would require certain materials, rock, wood, corpses, and train their weapon skills.

[Grax]

The new custom workshops seem like they could hold a great deal of potential. Since you can choose what skill is trained it could be possible to set up "training dummies" by creating a custom workshop that would require certain materials, rock, wood, corpses, and train their weapon skills.

The main question is - WHEN?

When this version will be released?

[PTTG??]

Avast, thie be a question of'en axed on these hear shores, matey.

Arrrr.