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[Quatch]

The downside is you miss out on bones from corpses.  But even if you went around manually clearing the dump order on corpses to keep the bones, it's still faster than doing everything manually.

In the stocks screen mass undump the bones.

[Landstradd]

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Spoiler: Oh yeah? (click to show/hide)

To make this more on topic, I wonder if the cats (and other animals) in the next version will have as much variety as the dwarves in their hair and the like.

For that matter, has it been mentioned how traits like that are passed along?  Do children get their appearance from their parents directly or is it more randomly generated?

That's probably been answered, but not since I've been watching this thread.  And at nearly 300 pages (on my forum settings), it's a little much to read back through.

Holy Smurfs that cat has a beard! *Dorfs worship it like a god*

Slightly off topic, I would love to learn how this community stole "Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!" from Warhammer.

[silverskull39]

Holy Smurfs that cat has a beard! *Dorfs worship it like a god*

Slightly off topic, I would love to learn how this community stole "Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!" from Warhammer.

I can't speak for everyone on this, but I like to think they stole it from us retroactively with the use of a time machine. Failing that, I'm sure the quote originally belonged to some long forgotten cult anyway.

[LoneJedi7]

just wondering if anybody knows (b/c i havent seen anything on this subject), are the dwarfs in the next version going to notice that their flesh is burning when set ablaze or is that whole feature going to be left alone?

[MrWiggles]

just wondering if anybody knows (b/c i havent seen anything on this subject), are the dwarfs in the next version going to notice that their flesh is burning when set ablaze or is that whole feature going to be left alone?

Dorfs on fire are still zany.

[Thundrim]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Some have indicated prolonged contact with water at some stage in our later history, generally speaking, as a possible explanation for the hair "loss". Apparently the shape of the nose is supposed to back up this theory, since it's more suitable for activities in the liquid element, than the solution currently exhibited by our hairy friends on the sides of this specific evolutionary tree.

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[Astarch]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

[silverskull39]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

Actually, while I'm sure that was a contributing factor, I believe it was because humans were very dirty when we had fur, and this led to many parasites living in the fur. Unlike monkeys, we humans didn't pick them out and eat them, and so they often caused infections or spread other illnesses. Thus, those humans with less fur lived longer, produced more, and eventually most of our fur disappeared. I think I read this in national geographic, but I could be wrong.

[Kitpup]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

Saw the docu Becoming Human today and that was the main theory they purported. Didn't catch why we managed to keep things like pubic hair (which always confused me), head hair made sense in colder climes, and thick hair growth on the body is connected to testosterone in humans (unrelated to the docu).

[Bauglir]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

Actually, while I'm sure that was a contributing factor, I believe it was because humans were very dirty when we had fur, and this led to many parasites living in the fur. Unlike monkeys, we humans didn't pick them out and eat them, and so they often caused infections or spread other illnesses. Thus, those humans with less fur lived longer, produced more, and eventually most of our fur disappeared. I think I read this in national geographic, but I could be wrong.

That leaves the question of why we didn't just keep up the grooming behavior.

[DeKaFu]

Actually, while I'm sure that was a contributing factor, I believe it was because humans were very dirty when we had fur, and this led to many parasites living in the fur. Unlike monkeys, we humans didn't pick them out and eat them, and so they often caused infections or spread other illnesses. Thus, those humans with less fur lived longer, produced more, and eventually most of our fur disappeared. I think I read this in national geographic, but I could be wrong.

That leaves the question of why we didn't just keep up the grooming behavior.

It also raises questions as to why the same didn't apply to all the other dirty, hairy animals out there. 

[bombcar]

Will the wiki link in the DF executable be updated?

Also,

What up the Scamps™?

[MrWiggles]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

Saw the docu Becoming Human today and that was the main theory they purported. Didn't catch why we managed to keep things like pubic hair (which always confused me), head hair made sense in colder climes, and thick hair growth on the body is connected to testosterone in humans (unrelated to the docu).

From my understanding its body temperature regulation and before human lost the ability to do phomena some of that to.

[Protactinium]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

Saw the docu Becoming Human today and that was the main theory they purported. Didn't catch why we managed to keep things like pubic hair (which always confused me), head hair made sense in colder climes, and thick hair growth on the body is connected to testosterone in humans (unrelated to the docu).

From my understanding its body temperature regulation and before human lost the ability to do phomena some of that to.

I'm not an expert on this by any means, but here's a side-note:

Humans have been incredibly good hunters because they hunted through endurance hunting. They simply could chase animals for so long that the animal would become exhausted while the human could keep going. We managed that through temperature regulation--we sweated and we had very little body hair. Without that fur, we would not overheat and dehydrate and all that bad stuff.

As far as pubic hair goes, I have no idea for females, but I speculate (only speculate) that pubic hair might have stayed on men, potentially and partially, to help keep the epididymis warm so that sperm didn't die. I learned in high school health classes that sperm needs a remarkably regulated temperature to stay alive and so I'm guessing some sort of link from that to pubic hair.

[Bauglir]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Not why do we have beards, but why did we lose all our other hair?

Cats don't have beards, because cats have fur.

Because it's harder to shed heat when you're covered in fur.

Saw the docu Becoming Human today and that was the main theory they purported. Didn't catch why we managed to keep things like pubic hair (which always confused me), head hair made sense in colder climes, and thick hair growth on the body is connected to testosterone in humans (unrelated to the docu).

From my understanding its body temperature regulation and before human lost the ability to do phomena some of that to.

I'm not an expert on this by any means, but here's a side-note:

Humans have been incredibly good hunters because they hunted through endurance hunting. They simply could chase animals for so long that the animal would become exhausted while the human could keep going. We managed that through temperature regulation--we sweated and we had very little body hair. Without that fur, we would not overheat and dehydrate and all that bad stuff.

As far as pubic hair goes, I have no idea for females, but I speculate (only speculate) that pubic hair might have stayed on men, potentially and partially, to help keep the epididymis warm so that sperm didn't die. I learned in high school health classes that sperm needs a remarkably regulated temperature to stay alive and so I'm guessing some sort of link from that to pubic hair.

I would actually imagine it's unrelated; its persistence in women aside, they're already held out from the body to cool them and muscles in the scrotum can contract to bring them closer in order to warm things up if it gets too cold out.

Although, perhaps pubic hair lets the temperature be more evenly distributed from side to side (instead of being all warm on the body side and all cold on the other, I don't know if there's any significant difference that blood flow can't handle). Not sure on the physics there, that'd probably require testing I want no part of.